Radiation hazard?

While looking for something else in the KZLA NOTAM current as
of Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:53:00 GMT, I found this interesting
warning:

FDC 4/5471 - CA.. POINT MUGU NAS, CA. RADIATION HAZARD TO
AIRCRAFT EXISTS WITHIN A 1.5 NM RADIUS OF 340555N/1190700W.
THE AREA IS HOT CONTINIOUSLY FROM SFC TO 8000 FT AGL.
AIRCRAFT WISHING TO TRANSIT THE AREA SHOULD CONTACT THE
APPROPRIATE ATC AGENCY FOR THE STATUS OF THE AREA PRIOR TO
ENTRY OR TRANSIT. WIE UNTIL UFN

I assume the "radiation hazard" is some sort of RF emanation
that could mess up on-board electronics, but the extremely
short range is curious. Street Atlas 2005 shows the coordinates
as lying west of the intersection of Beach Road and 19th Street
in Pacific Missile Test Range facilities, Port Hueneme.

Any idea what this hazard might actually be?

On 15 Sep 2004 11:18:24 -0700, (Allen Thomson)
wrote:

I assume the "radiation hazard" is some sort of RF emanation
that could mess up on-board electronics, but the extremely

It means a radar. Range relates to power and the rate at which it
decreases with distance. For example....if I stand in front of an
Aegis radar during a pierside test at sufficiently high power, I'm
toasted. But that same radar is radiating across streets and bridges
and houses a mile or two distant, without ill effect.

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It means a radar. Range relates to power and the rate at which it
decreases with distance. For example....if I stand in front of an
Aegis radar during a pierside test at sufficiently high power, I'm
toasted. But that same radar is radiating across streets and bridges
and houses a mile or two distant,

It might or might not be a radar.
If they are using some forms of localized waves as energy carrier (not very
likely today though) you can get toasted even if you were thousands miles away
from the emitter.

Denyav wrote:
It means a radar. Range relates to power and the rate at which it
decreases with distance. For example....if I stand in front of an
Aegis radar during a pierside test at sufficiently high power, I'm
toasted. But that same radar is radiating across streets and bridges
and houses a mile or two distant,


It might or might not be a radar.
If they are using some forms of localized waves as energy carrier (not very
likely today though) you can get toasted even if you were thousands miles away
from the emitter.


Also could be a Laser. there is a site also in Calif. where a laser
is being projected straight up for a study. cannot remember the exact
location or the details of study. but I looked it up when I heard about
it. and it also shows on the charts as a hazard/restricted fly zone..
been a few years.. think it was around mono lake. ?

Denyav wrote:

If they are using some forms of localized waves as energy carrier (not very
likely today though) you can get toasted even if you were thousands miles away
from the emitter.

May I ask... what the heck are you talking about? What's "localized
waves as energy carrier"?


Qman

If they are using some forms of localized waves as energy carrier (not very
likely today though) you can get toasted even if you were thousands miles
away
from the emitter.

May I ask... what the heck are you talking about? What's "localized
waves as energy carrier"?


Qman

Please check out US Patent Nr.:4959559
Patent holder: US Gov't
Patent is based mainly on Kiolkowskis' work.
(This patent itself could be subject of a nasty international patent
infringement lawsuit,but that is another story)

Denyav wrote:
If they are using some forms of localized waves as energy carrier (not very
likely today though) you can get toasted even if you were thousands miles away from the emitter.
May I ask... what the heck are you talking about? What's "localized
waves as energy carrier"?
Qman
Please check out US Patent Nr.:4959559


If you actually bother to read the patent Denyav quotes (see
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...&RS=PN/4959559),
you'll find that the author claims a significant jump in the ability to
extend his "energy carrier waves".

The patent jumps the maximim distance from:
"50 cm, about 2 L.sub.R" (bottom of document, 6 paragraphs from end)
to
"10 m is obtained which is more than 30 L.sub.R." (bottom of document, 4
paragraphs from end)

or, in other words, his patent allows you to increase its range by a
factor of 20 - impressive.

Unfortunately, even the new, improved effective range of 10 m doesn't
buy you much in the real world.

Nice try, Denyav (who, of course, will try to claim that's just to hide
the real range).

Probably multiple hazards, as they have multiple radar systems there.



"Allen Thomson" wrote

Any idea what this hazard might actually be?