Best PDA/PNA for FLARM display?

Tom Claffey wrote:
XCSoar for Altair shows Flarm really well, not sure if XCSoar on a PDA does
as well.

XCSoar has the same features on all supported platforms (Windows,
Windows CE/Mobile, Android, Linux, Mac OS X), which includes a
state-of-the-art FLARM display.

By the way, the Dell Streak Mini has the very best display with
current hardware. Unfortunately, it has gone out of production a few
weeks ago, so get one while you can.

Some photos:

http://max.kellermann.name/gallery/fliegen/streak/
http://max.kellermann.name/download/..._vs_streak.jpg

Max

On Aug 24, 6:47*am, Frank Paynter wrote:
I flew with a portable PowerFLARM at the Uvalde pre-worlds, and I have
a 'brick' unit on order for delivery sometime this fall/winter. *As I
wait for delivery, I am contemplating how to integrate it into my
current instrumentation setup.

One possibility I am considering is to not use the brick's Butterfly
display at all, assuming I can get adequate display/warnings from
FLARM data displayed on one of the many PDA/PNA moving map displays
available these days.

Does anyone have experience with FLARM display on WinPilot PRO v9,
SeeYou Mobile on an Oudie or other display, ClearNav, or other? *Is
the integrated display good enough to replace the Butterfly display?

TIA,

TA

Frank,

I have been testing PowerFlarm Portable with the following hardware
and software

Craggy Aero Ultimate Le
LX1606 Vario
SeeYou Software

PowerFlarm is powered by and connects directly to the LX1606 vario.
The LX1606 receives the NMEA stream from the PowerFlarm and adds its
own sentences. RX & TX to the Ultimate Le thru the serial port.
The system works and is valuable for the read out of Altitude and
climb rate, you can also assign Contest Id with Seeyou and colors for
above and below.

I still believe the PowerFlarm display or the ButterFly display will
give you a more intuitive and timely threat alert display. I am
advising customers to have one of these displays in addtion to
connection to the Ipaq/PNA.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

In many situations typical IPAQ displays are not easily readable in
the cockpit. If you have a collision alarm and spend time looking down
at a tired old display, you're defeating the purpose of a collision
avoidance system.
ClearNav, Ultimate and Altair will provide bright, readable displays.
Some others too (Samsung Galaxy Tab, Iphone, etc).
Besides a bright display, I believe the Butterfly remote will be
required for audio volume control.
Jim

On Aug 24, 2:01*pm, JS wrote:
In many situations typical IPAQ displays are not easily readable in
the cockpit. If you have a collision alarm and spend time looking down
at a tired old display, you're defeating the purpose of a collision
avoidance system.
ClearNav, Ultimate and Altair will provide bright, readable displays.
Some others too (Samsung Galaxy Tab, Iphone, etc).
Besides a bright display, I believe the Butterfly remote will be
required for audio volume control.
Jim

Thanks to all posters so far. As I thought about this issue myself
overnight, I came to the conclusion that I will need to have the
Butterfly display in a prominent and visible location in/on my panel,
regardless of whether or not I decide to integrate PF output into one
or both of my nav instruments. For instance, I know that ClearNav has
a 3-second update loop, which means that it could be as much as 3
seconds between the time that PF issues a collision alert and the time
that ClearNav displays the corresponding FLARM hits. 3 seconds at
maybe 200-300 fps closure - ouch! This is all independent of the fact
that the Butterfly display is optimized for conflict resolution, and
nav systems aren't. Oh well, back to figuring out where I'm going to
put the Butterfly display! ;-).

TA

On 8/24/11 6:47 AM, Frank Paynter wrote:
I flew with a portable PowerFLARM at the Uvalde pre-worlds, and I have
a 'brick' unit on order for delivery sometime this fall/winter. As I
wait for delivery, I am contemplating how to integrate it into my
current instrumentation setup.

One possibility I am considering is to not use the brick's Butterfly
display at all, assuming I can get adequate display/warnings from
FLARM data displayed on one of the many PDA/PNA moving map displays
available these days.

Does anyone have experience with FLARM display on WinPilot PRO v9,
SeeYou Mobile on an Oudie or other display, ClearNav, or other? Is
the integrated display good enough to replace the Butterfly display?

TIA,

TA

This has seen covered on r.a.s before, but you absolutely need a
PowerFLARM portable (with built in display) or the brick with external
Butterfly display. You will not be able to operate a PowerFLARM brick
say just driving a PDA or flight computer. There is no software
interface for those 3rd party systems to use control the setup and
operation of the PowerFLARM, and for safety reasons the PowerFLARM is
just not intended to be used without a primary Flarm collision avoidance
display. Put that display as high up on your panel or glare shield so it
can be glanced at quickly.

Darryl