10,500 feet is way the heck up there!

In article DS_ib.770859$Ho3.201262@sccrnsc03, Jay Honeck
wrote:

You routinely descent at 3500 feet per minute, Ben?
My ears never bother me in normal flight, but dropping *that* fast might
cause someone some pretty severe discomfort.

Skydiving, free-fall from 18k,open 2,500. It takes my ears at least an
hour to clear.

In article 53_ib.777467$uu5.134981@sccrnsc04, Jay Honeck
wrote:

A few things I discovered:
1. Two miles up is actually TOO high for good photography with a standard
Canon Elph digital camera. The pictures I found to be best were taken
around 8,000 feet as we slowly spiraled down to land.

An Elph? Really?
I think it's time to consider cutting a hole in the belly and
installing a camera port.
Get yourself a good Hasselblad and you have a new business to pay for
the Grape fill-up.
Oh the places you'll go, the things you will see...

In article ,
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

Dale wrote:

I come down a little faster than you though, normally around
3000-3500fpm. G

If I try more than about 1,000 fpm, the CHTs get out of the green on the low
side pretty quick.

George Patterson
A woman's perfect breakfast occurs when she's sitting at the table
sipping
gourmet coffee while looking at pictures of her son on the cover of
Sports
Illustrated, her daughter on the cover of Business Week, her boyfriend
on
the cover of Playgirl, and her husband on the back of the milk carton.



I always keep at least cruise power on when descending, until I descend
low enough to maintain 2300/23", gradually enriching the mixture as I
descand. I like to start descent 20-40 miles out, letting the speed
increase, to make up for speed lost in climb. With normal cruise about
150 mph IAS at 10000, I can build up to about 170-180 MPH on descent (no
worry, because redline is 230 MPH). That way, there is no spiralling
down at destination or cylinder cooling.

2. The kids thought it was great! With hundreds of hours in the air over
the last nine years, my kids are old pros that only rarely look out the
windows anymore.

Function of their youth, I suspect. After 50+ years of flying, I
still love gawking at the scenery going by. (Even over Iowa!)

Do those kids still say "Are we there yet?"

3. Spiraling down from 2 miles over the airport takes a LONG time! I tried
to maintain a nice, easy 300 - 400 fpm descent, which meant circling the
airport for twenty minutes in order to land!

Consider what that means if your engine quits. You have a heck of
along time to find a nice big field, and it can be miles away!

When I fly north out of here (central PA) there ain't nothing but
mountains covered by trees. I get pretty high.

vince norris

I drive the 206 to 13,000 many times each weekend, sometimes 20+ loads
per day, and never get tired of the view. To the south is Knik Arm and
Anchorage, to the northwest is Mt McKinley and Mt Foraker and to the
east is Knik Glacier.

Count your blessings!

vince norris

"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
...
3. Spiraling down from 2 miles over the airport takes a LONG time! I
tried
to maintain a nice, easy 300 - 400 fpm descent, which meant circling the
airport for twenty minutes in order to land!

Consider what that means if your engine quits. You have a heck of
along time to find a nice big field, and it can be miles away!

I would think that, when circling over an airport, one wouldn't bother
looking for a nice big field to land in, especially if it meant landing
miles away.

Pete

One thing I noticed when I started flying was that my ears stopped popping
after about 20 hours.

Benefits of a big head, I guess. ;-)

No, benefit of clear eustachian tubes.

If you go up to 10 K next time you have a head cold, you'll discover
you are NOT "acclimated." DON'T DO IT. It's excruciatingly painful.

Even during WW II, air crews were grounded for the "common cold."

vince norris

Jay Honeck wrote:

With hundreds of hours in the air over
the last nine years, my kids are old pros that only rarely look out the
windows anymore.

That's just because they can't see anything but sky with that wing in the way.

George Patterson
A woman's perfect breakfast occurs when she's sitting at the table sipping
gourmet coffee while looking at pictures of her son on the cover of Sports
Illustrated, her daughter on the cover of Business Week, her boyfriend on
the cover of Playgirl, and her husband on the back of the milk carton.

Well, the hill behind my house in NV is over 10,600'...

Mike
MU-2

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:53_ib.777467$uu5.134981@sccrnsc04...
I've spent a fair number of hours droning along at 10,500 feet in the
MidWest. (For you mountain-flyer-types that think 10.5 K is LOW, that
altitude is a lot different here in Iowa, cuz it puts you almost two miles
above Mother Earth.) It's usually quite boring, and is something I
normally do only en route.

However, I've never actually maintained that altitude *over* an area I was
familiar with. This past weekend we were on our way back from
leaf-peeping
in Wisconsin, and the visibility was just stunning -- crystal clear, azure
blue skies, with no humidity and temperatures in the upper 60s -- so it
seemed like a perfect time to get some aerial photos of Iowa City.

(I've been trying for some time to get a picture for our website that had
enough scale to show the whole area, and our position in it -- but have
just
never had the right opportunity.)

A few things I discovered:

1. Two miles up is actually TOO high for good photography with a standard
Canon Elph digital camera. The pictures I found to be best were taken
around 8,000 feet as we slowly spiraled down to land.

2. The kids thought it was great! With hundreds of hours in the air over
the last nine years, my kids are old pros that only rarely look out the
windows anymore. At 10.5K over familiar territory, however, they were like
newbie passengers again, squealing and pointing. We were all amazed at
what
we could see.

3. Spiraling down from 2 miles over the airport takes a LONG time! I
tried
to maintain a nice, easy 300 - 400 fpm descent, which meant circling the
airport for twenty minutes in order to land!

4. It was fun watching the landing pattern from a "God's Eye" point of
view.

It's not something you would normally think of doing, but if you get a
chance viewing your home turf from WAY up high is kinda fun!

(And you can take a peek at the picture I selected for our opening webpage
at www.AlexisParkInn.com. It's really shows our position relative to the
airport and other important local attractions. For our potential guests,
this picture really is worth a thousand words...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

We normally fly at around 11,000 - 12,000 ft. because its where we get out best
speed.
This picture I took over Phoenix 2 weeks ago at 12,500 ft, we flew over the
Phoenix class B and started our decent about 20 miles out at 500 fpm on the far
side of Phoenix..
http://216.158.136.206/newplane/phoenix.jpg

There is allot less color to see on this side of the country.
We use an the Olympus E-10 digital camera for pictures.

Jeff

Jay Honeck wrote:

I've spent a fair number of hours droning along at 10,500 feet in the
MidWest. (For you mountain-flyer-types that think 10.5 K is LOW, that
altitude is a lot different here in Iowa, cuz it puts you almost two miles
above Mother Earth.) It's usually quite boring, and is something I
normally do only en route.

However, I've never actually maintained that altitude *over* an area I was
familiar with. This past weekend we were on our way back from leaf-peeping
in Wisconsin, and the visibility was just stunning -- crystal clear, azure
blue skies, with no humidity and temperatures in the upper 60s -- so it
seemed like a perfect time to get some aerial photos of Iowa City.

(I've been trying for some time to get a picture for our website that had
enough scale to show the whole area, and our position in it -- but have just
never had the right opportunity.)

A few things I discovered:

1. Two miles up is actually TOO high for good photography with a standard
Canon Elph digital camera. The pictures I found to be best were taken
around 8,000 feet as we slowly spiraled down to land.

2. The kids thought it was great! With hundreds of hours in the air over
the last nine years, my kids are old pros that only rarely look out the
windows anymore. At 10.5K over familiar territory, however, they were like
newbie passengers again, squealing and pointing. We were all amazed at what
we could see.

3. Spiraling down from 2 miles over the airport takes a LONG time! I tried
to maintain a nice, easy 300 - 400 fpm descent, which meant circling the
airport for twenty minutes in order to land!

4. It was fun watching the landing pattern from a "God's Eye" point of
view.

It's not something you would normally think of doing, but if you get a
chance viewing your home turf from WAY up high is kinda fun!

(And you can take a peek at the picture I selected for our opening webpage
at www.AlexisParkInn.com. It's really shows our position relative to the
airport and other important local attractions. For our potential guests,
this picture really is worth a thousand words...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"