Presidential TFRs

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:17:44 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

I doubt it. Most democracies self-destruct in this way, as people trade
freedoms for security. Sometimes it's planes hitting towers, sometimes
it's burning of the Reichstag, but the powers that be always find
excuses to tighten the leash ...

Do implications count?
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wrote:
Perhaps it would be more appropriate for the government to establish a
30 nm NO-DRIVE ZONE around Jr.

A modified version of this already exists. Ever been in a city where
POTUS was visiting? Doesn't matter which one. All the local cops
line the ground route and block intersections and on-off ramps
of the freeways.

And always during rush hour when people are trying to get to work or
after, to pay the bills for these trips.

blanche cohen writes:

And always during rush hour when people are trying to get to work or
after, to pay the bills for these trips.

Nobody ever complained in the past, and now it's illegal to complain.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Nobody ever complained in the past, and now it's illegal to complain.

Really? Dunno where you live, but the local radio stations in Atlanta bitched
like hell when Carter came to town. When Gore closed the Garden State Parkway
during rush hour to allend a fundraiser at Bon Jovi's house, there was serious
fear that it would cost the Democrats heavily in the next New Jersey election.
And the traffic problems caused by GWB's latest visit to New York attracted a
lot of media criticism.

In short, people have been complaining about these TDRs for at least 30 years,
and, since all of the local DJs are still on the loose, it's quite clear that
it's still legal to do so.

George Patterson
You can dress a hog in a tuxedo, but he still wants to roll in the mud.

G.R. Patterson III writes:

Really? Dunno where you live, but the local radio stations in Atlanta bitched
like hell when Carter came to town.

And what procedures were changed in response to the complaints?

When Gore closed the Garden State Parkway during rush hour to allend
a fundraiser at Bon Jovi's house, there was serious fear that it would
cost the Democrats heavily in the next New Jersey election.

But did it?

And the traffic problems caused by GWB's latest visit to New York attracted a
lot of media criticism.

So?

In short, people have been complaining about these TDRs for at least 30 years,
and, since all of the local DJs are still on the loose, it's quite clear that
it's still legal to do so.

If they've been complaining about them for 30 years, why are they still
in effect?

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On 2 Nov 2003 09:37:01 -0700, (blanche cohen)
wrote:

wrote:
Perhaps it would be more appropriate for the government to establish a
30 nm NO-DRIVE ZONE around Jr.

A modified version of this already exists.

As this incident demonstrates, such a security measure is as
unrentable as the presidential TFRs in its effectiveness.