Wellston Crash Report Quote

Ace Pilot wrote:
Hey - the NTSB sure could have used your help. They completely missed
the icing factor. In fact, the NTSB said that ICING WAS NOT A FACTOR.

I wonder how they determined that... the report states that the aircraft
was destroyed by the crash impact and post-crash fire. Guess what
happens to airframe ice in a fire?

"EDR" wrote in message
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Aero-News Quote of the Day

"This tragic accident that took the lives of a respected U.S. Senator,
members of his family, staff, and the flight crew, shocked us all... It
sadly and starkly points out the need for more aggressive action to
improve safety in the on-demand charter industry."

Source: NTSB Chairman Ellen G. Engleman, commenting on the final report
issued in the NTSB investigation of the KingAir crash that took the
life of Senator Paul Wellstone and seven others.


You don't suppose the federal governments decisions to close local
flight service stations (and control towers that report weather) over
the past twenty years have had anything to do with it, do you?


No. Eveleth-Virginia Municipal Airport has never had a control tower or a
FSS. When there was a FSS at nearby Hibbing weather observations were not
taken at EVM, but EVM does have weather reporting now.

EDR wrote:

You don't suppose the federal governments decisions to close local
flight service stations (and control towers that report weather) over
the past twenty years have had anything to do with it, do you?

No, I don't.

George Patterson
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that can
be learned no other way.

I thought this was a part 91 flight. Wasn't his kid flying the plane with
him in the right seat?

How's that a 135 operation?

mike regish

"EDR" wrote in message
...
Aero-News Quote of the Day

"This tragic accident that took the lives of a respected U.S. Senator,
members of his family, staff, and the flight crew, shocked us all... It
sadly and starkly points out the need for more aggressive action to
improve safety in the on-demand charter industry."

Source: NTSB Chairman Ellen G. Engleman, commenting on the final report
issued in the NTSB investigation of the KingAir crash that took the
life of Senator Paul Wellstone and seven others.


You don't suppose the federal governments decisions to close local
flight service stations (and control towers that report weather) over
the past twenty years have had anything to do with it, do you?

"mike regish" wrote in message
news:OxVub.191838$9E1.1021751@attbi_s52...

I thought this was a part 91 flight. Wasn't his kid flying the plane with
him in the right seat?

How's that a 135 operation?


Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, not Mel Carnahan of Missouri.

Oops...

mike regish

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
news:OxVub.191838$9E1.1021751@attbi_s52...

I thought this was a part 91 flight. Wasn't his kid flying the plane
with
him in the right seat?

How's that a 135 operation?


Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, not Mel Carnahan of Missouri.

"mike regish" wrote in message news:OxVub.191838$9E1.1021751@attbi_s52...
I thought this was a part 91 flight. Wasn't his kid flying the plane with
him in the right seat?

How's that a 135 operation?

I think you're confusing the Wellstone crash (charter flight
operating under part 135, flown by pilot who lied about his
prior training and experience into icing conditions) with
the Carnahan crash (pt 91 flight)

Even so, it's a mischaracterization of the latter. Randy Carnahan
was a commercial multiengine pilot and practicing lawyer over the
age of 21, not usually described as "kid". Mel Carnahan was a commercial
SE pilot not qualified to fly the C310 involved in the crash, and
while seating is unknown it's the testimony of friends that it was
his habit to sit in the back during such flights.

FWIW
Sydney

In article , Snowbird
wrote:

[snip]
SE pilot not qualified to fly the C310 involved in the crash, and
[end snip]

Cessna 337, wasn't it?
The family is suing Parker-Hanifin.

"EDR" wrote in message ...
In article , Snowbird
wrote:

[snip]
SE pilot not qualified to fly the C310 involved in the crash, and
[end snip]

Cessna 337, wasn't it?
The family is suing Parker-Hanifin.

335 actually which is a non-inline twin (shares the type certificate with the
320 and the 340 models).