Presidential TFR @ Kill Devil Hills

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:27:50 -0800, R. Hubbell wrote:

next president will be more enlightened. And keep up the pressure on
how silly they are in the press and support AOPA.

I got news for you, AOPA doesn't care about you and I and our flying
freedoms. I know of an aircraft that was in the process of being stolen
and the local police let the guy go. The owner called AOPA to let them
know how well this new system was working and they basically told him that
they didn't care and to take it up with someone else.

So you see, AOPA doesn't really care about silly rules unless it affects
them I suppose. They certainly aren't trying to maintain a list of
failures that they could then suggest better ways of doing things.
Homeland security is a joke and the AOPA doesn't care.

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:05:39 GMT Dave S wrote:

Ok.. at the risk of interrupting the partisanship here...

What makes you think that if the next prez is a Democrat that the SS..
er Secret Service will not still insist on a 60 mile diameter bubble?


You're really trying to spoil all the fun! We can only hope that the
next president will be more enlightened.

Not unless we gat an alien being from another planet in the race.

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:34:22 -0500 Richard Russell wrote:

Does anyone else find it ironic that the President's very presence at
the celebration of 100 years of powered flight has shut down almost
2,000 square miles of airspace? Couldn't he have phoned it in?
Rich Russell


It doesn't seem ironic to me, just dumb. Heck he's got Saddam what's the worry?
Oh wait, the crippled, dialysis patient is still a threat.

It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing in
the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't want to know.


R. Hubbell

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:34:22 -0500 Richard Russell
wrote:

Does anyone else find it ironic that the President's very presence at
the celebration of 100 years of powered flight has shut down almost
2,000 square miles of airspace? Couldn't he have phoned it in?
Rich Russell


It doesn't seem ironic to me, just dumb. Heck he's got Saddam what's the
worry?
Oh wait, the crippled, dialysis patient is still a threat.

It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because
a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing
in
the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't want to know.


R. Hubbell

I would love to see Ken Hyde and crew cancel the flight of the Flyer at
Kitty Hawk to protest the absurd presidential TFRs. If Boyer was in charge
it might happen but not with EAA in charge.

pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing
in
the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't want to know.

Easy to answer that one,,,, he was trying to avoid the likelihood (at the
time) going into combat with the draft by joining the Guard... An 'artful
dodger' :-)

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pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he
doing in the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't want
to know.

Easy to answer that one,,,, he was trying to avoid the likelihood (at
the time) going into combat with the draft by joining the Guard...
An 'artful dodger' :-)

Let's not forget the insurance policy... he went AWOL for a year and a
half.

Neil

It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing in
the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't want to know.

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

What did you fly when you were in the military?

all the best -- Dan Ford
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:04:36 -0500 Cub Driver wrote:


It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing in
the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't want to know.

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact most
consider that to be the defining metric. So why don't we hear more bragging
about that from Dubya? Is he too humble? *hahaha*


What did you fly when you were in the military?

The point is that I didn't purport to be a military pilot while avoiding
duty.


R. Hubbell


all the best -- Dan Ford
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In article qsGDb.18357$pY.9524@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.

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Bob Noel

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:53:28 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article qsGDb.18357$pY.9524@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.


Brag is probably the wrong word but number of hours is a metric that gets
tossed around a bit. But never heard any mention of Dubya's hours as
PIC.


R. Hubbell


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Bob Noel