OT "Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?"

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:

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The need to show a voter ID, or standard picture id (drivers license)
reveals, name, date of birth, address, drivers license # (if card is
used), at a place where the the voters name and address are found on a
printed list.

Yep, they already have most of that information which you supplied when
you registered to vote, so to get anything more they either have to
copy your ID or write the information down on an extra copy of the
voter roll, all without anyone, like the other ID checkers sitting
next to them, noticing.

You are creating a focal point for personal
information, a potential situation for a person/group of people to
steal information,

So once a year a gang of identity thieves is going to put a plant in
the local polling place and somehow steal personal information from
people with last names A-G while the other people behind the H-O and
P-Z signs next to the perp don't notice that something funny is going
on like accumulating information instead of just handing out ballots?

Puerile fantasy.

based on a mandate that all walk in voters share
personal information.

With one person who is supposed to do nothing more than match the ID
to the voter list and hand you a ballot.

If they are doing anything else, call the cops.

So to your example, it would appear, in an
effort to fight one fire, you placed a whole lot of flammables right
next to another fire, i guess you could feel good about one fire
fighting effort, until the other house explodes.

I think you are totally out of touch with reality.

You have to show ID at an FAA ramp check; aren't you afraid identity
thieves are going to start impersonating FAA officials to steal from
people with known higher incomes, i.e. pilots?

On Aug 11, 5:45 pm, wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...Fdd4ae8204bf7b

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
The need to show a voter ID, or standard picture id (drivers license)
reveals, name, date of birth, address, drivers license # (if card is
used), at a place where the the voters name and address are found on a
printed list.
Yep, they already have most of that information which you supplied when
you registered to vote, so to get anything more they either have to
copy your ID or write the information down on an extra copy of the
voter roll, all without anyone, like the other ID checkers sitting
next to them, noticing.
You are creating a focal point for personal
information, a potential situation for a person/group of people to
steal information,
So once a year a gang of identity thieves is going to put a plant in
the local polling place and somehow steal personal information from
people with last names A-G while the other people behind the H-O and
P-Z signs next to the perp don't notice that something funny is going
on like accumulating information instead of just handing out ballots?
Puerile fantasy.
based on a mandate that all walk in voters share
personal information.
With one person who is supposed to do nothing more than match the ID
to the voter list and hand you a ballot.
If they are doing anything else, call the cops.
So to your example, it would appear, in an
effort to fight one fire, you placed a whole lot of flammables right
next to another fire, i guess you could feel good about one fire
fighting effort, until the other house explodes.


With todays cell phone cameras, one only needs a press of a button,
and a good memory for numbers. Identity theft protection includes
shredding waste that contains important information so people who go
through a households *TRASH*, have a harder time stealing your
identity. The typical household waste contains food/dog/cat/tolietries
along with the personal information we are told to shred, this sits
and stews a week before it goes to the curb. So if people are willing
to go through a persons week old curbside trash just to get *one*
persons personal information, stealing numbers from a polling place to
get a lot of peoples personal information is not to far out of the
realm.

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:

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With todays cell phone cameras, one only needs a press of a button,

Yeah, and in a polling place it would be with dozens of people around who
would take notice of someone doing something this stupid.

The people that run the polling places take the whole thing very seriously
and don't take well to people doing other than what is expected so this
isn't going to happen in the real world.

On Aug 11, 7:50*pm, wrote:snip" The people
that run the polling places take the whole thing very seriously" snip
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...78dcbda1e0711a

thats a bs false sense of security, based on your illogical
hypocritical assumptions, you still have failed to refute my point.You
are creating a focal point for personal information, a potential
situation for a person/group of people to
steal information, based on a mandate to all walk in voters. This
sharing of personal information in a non-secure highly populated
environment increases the of identity theft, an undue burden.

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Aug 11, 7:50Â*pm, wrote:snip" The people
that run the polling places take the whole thing very seriously" snip
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...78dcbda1e0711a

thats a bs false sense of security, based on your illogical
hypocritical assumptions, you still have failed to refute my point.You
are creating a focal point for personal information, a potential
situation for a person/group of people to
steal information, based on a mandate to all walk in voters. This
sharing of personal information in a non-secure highly populated
environment increases the of identity theft, an undue burden.

This is nothing more than a pile of rambling, puerile, nonsense.

It is obvious you have never been in a polling place.

On Aug 12, 10:10 am, wrote:"Yes"snip
rambling nonsense
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...29ad74e61789ff

glad you agree, setting aside your poor logic, its obvious the mandate
for a voter is a bad idea.

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Aug 12, 10:10 am, wrote:"Yes"snip
rambling nonsense
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...29ad74e61789ff

glad you agree, setting aside your poor logic, its obvious the mandate
for a voter is a bad idea.

Nope, I think it is a great idea and that your conserns of mass identity
theft at a polling place are puerile paranoia based on your total lack
of knowledge of how polling places work.

On Aug 12, 11:08*am, wrote: ""snip

and your opinions are backed by what your opinion, all things being
equal your lame attempt at dismissal is just another appeal to your
own authority.

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Aug 12, 11:08Â*am, wrote: ""snip

and your opinions are backed by what your opinion, all things being
equal your lame attempt at dismissal is just another appeal to your
own authority.

Nope, unlike you I have actually been inside of a polling place and
have observed how they work.

Your delusions of setting up mass identity theft inside a polling place
are utter nonsense and just can't be done.

On Aug 12, 12:58*pm, wrote:" Nope" snip

you are in denial of reality.

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan...tion/na-ohio25
"Ohio poll workers convicted
January 25, 2007
CLEVELAND — Two election workers were convicted Wednesday of rigging a
recount of the 2004 presidential election to avoid a more thorough
review in Ohio's most populous county.

Jacqueline Maiden, elections coordinator of the Cuyahoga County
Elections Board, and ballot manager Kathleen Dreamer each were
convicted of a felony count of negligent misconduct by an elections
employee. They also were convicted of one misdemeanor count each of
failure to perform their duty as elections employees."