TSA panics over baptism device

"Dave" wrote in message
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| "Dave S" wrote in message
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| This, unfortunately, doesnt sound like an over-reaction.
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| The passenger broke the golden rule, having something given to him which
he
| did not know what it was.
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| To get as far as the security screeners he must have lied at check -in.
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| In the UK the first question are you carrying anything given to you by
| someone else.
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First of all, this occurred in the United States. Secondly, no one asks
those questions in the United States. The passenger did not lie to security
screeners. You may climb down off your high horse now.

A pipe bomb would have set off the nitrate sniffers. There are plenty of
objects that might look like pipe bombs otherwise, including panty hose
containers, vials of oil used for religious purposes, the baptism devices
involved here, etc.

Frankly, I think it is a waste of time and resources to devote so much time
and attention to an innocent device carried by a devout Roman Catholic. Who
knows what real terrorists might have gotten past security during the
distraction and confusion?

Armies in war generally find it more effective to concentrate their efforts
on the known enemy. Shooting at everybody indiscriminately just creates more
enemies. You Brits of all people should know that. If incidents like this
continue there will eventually be a severe political, if not violent,
backlash against transportation security. It is possible that people will
stop traveling on airlines entirely.

First of all, this occurred in the United States. Secondly, no one asks
those questions in the United States. The passenger did not lie to security
screeners. You may climb down off your high horse now.

Better double check on that. I have been asked exactly that question by the
ticket agent at check in every time I have flown for the last several years.
Even before 9/11. This has been standard procedure in the US for a long time.

Better double check on that. I have been asked exactly that question by
the
ticket agent at check in every time I have flown for the last several
years.
Even before 9/11. This has been standard procedure in the US for a long
time.

It was standard procedure for a long time, before 9/11 and for about 18
months after it. But then the TSA rescinded the requirement entirely. I
imagine that if you are catching a British Airways (or other foreign
carrier) flight, they may still ask this question. Some of the US airlines
may also still be asking, either from force of habit or for some other
reason. But it is no longer mandated that they do so. US Airways, for
example, has deleted these questions from their check-in kiosks.

"CSA722" wrote in message
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| First of all, this occurred in the United States. Secondly, no one asks
| those questions in the United States. The passenger did not lie to
security
| screeners. You may climb down off your high horse now.
|
| Better double check on that. I have been asked exactly that question by
the
| ticket agent at check in every time I have flown for the last several
years.
| Even before 9/11. This has been standard procedure in the US for a long
time.

The requirement to ask questions about who packed your baggage and whether
you have been asked to carry things for anyone else was rescinded on August
29, 2002.

"CSA722" wrote in message
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| First of all, this occurred in the United States. Secondly, no one asks
| those questions in the United States. The passenger did not lie to
security
| screeners. You may climb down off your high horse now.
|
| Better double check on that. I have been asked exactly that question by
the
| ticket agent at check in every time I have flown for the last several
years.
| Even before 9/11. This has been standard procedure in the US for a long
time.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/...-questions.htm

I was a baggage searcher back in January, 1973, when the U.S.A. first
started searching baggage at MIA. At that time we were searching for
weapons to avert hi-jackings. It was incredible the stuff people were
trying to carry on and they weren't trying to hijack a plane. In the couple
of months I was there, we found 12 inch knives, all kinds of guns mostly
from women, gallons of flammable liquids, tear gas, cans of spray paint,
and a lot of stuff I can't remember. I don't mind the searches. Even
without terrorists, there is a significant threat from nuts and little old
ladies with handguns.

Jim

Frankly, I think it is a waste of time and resources to devote so much time
and attention to an innocent device carried by a devout Roman Catholic.


But we should pay attention to an innocent device carried by a devout Muslim?
Roman Catholics don't have a good record in the violence department.

Jose


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I was a baggage searcher back in January, 1973, when the U.S.A. first
started searching baggage at MIA. At that time we were searching for
weapons to avert hi-jackings. It was incredible the stuff people were
trying to carry on and they weren't trying to hijack a plane. In the couple
of months I was there, we found 12 inch knives, all kinds of guns mostly
from women, gallons of flammable liquids, tear gas, cans of spray paint,
and a lot of stuff I can't remember.


You think it's possible that these things might have been carried for innocent
reasons? Not everyone with spray paint and knives is out to hijack a plane.
That was your observation too.

Jose

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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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Frankly, I think it is a waste of time and resources to devote so much
time
and attention to an innocent device carried by a devout Roman Catholic.


But we should pay attention to an innocent device carried by a devout
Muslim?
Roman Catholics don't have a good record in the violence department.

Lot of devout roman Catholics are terrorists too you know, Columbia, Ireland
and partial to wanton murder.

"CSA722" wrote in message
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First of all, this occurred in the United States. Secondly, no one asks
those questions in the United States. The passenger did not lie to
security
screeners. You may climb down off your high horse now.


It is about time they started asking the questions again - I'm not getting
on a high horse, just pointing out the differences in security practice.