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Old February 5th 04, 04:53 AM
Chris Hoffmann
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Wasn't "toecutter" the name of the guy who, coincidentally, died (well,
actually, worse, lived through...) a horrible, fiery death in the original
Mad Max?

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Great story, Mr. Toe Cutter.



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Old February 5th 04, 11:53 AM
Brien K. Meehan
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"Chris Hoffmann" wrote in message ...
Wasn't "toecutter" the name of the guy who, coincidentally, died (well,
actually, worse, lived through...) a horrible, fiery death in the original
Mad Max?


That was Goose. Rather, "That thing in there, that ain't the Goose ... no way."

Toecutter was the gang leader.
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Old February 6th 04, 03:18 PM
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I almost landed at LNN, as I was headed west along the Lake Erie shorline
when a rolling wall of CB boxed me in and sent me high tailing back to the
east for cover... Blocked out at Elyria I was headed for Lost Nation until
the controller at Cleveland-Hopkins got all exercised because I was already
in his airspace by the time he got around to putting his coffee down and
answering a radio call that wasn't from Mega Air Cattle Lines... After he
got done whining about the sanctity of his B I was able to see a triple
seven on final so I mentioned I wouldn't mind landing there... He whined a
bit more but cleared me in... Sleeping in the lounge at the Jet Center was
a lot better than sleeping on the floor at LNN...

denny
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Hi,

Recently, posted:
(largely snipped)

Wandered around a little bit, discovered they were on the grounds of
the Lost Nation (LNN) airport, in the grass.

Unless this accident was 40 years ago or more, either you were damn lucky,
or just plain nuts. If LNN was dark, I'd have opted for the well-lit
freeway about a mile off the south side or at worst the 4-lane road (Lost
Nation Road) that runs straight for a couple of miles directly adjacent to
the airport, rather than risk the patches of trees, parked planes, and
buildings on the field or the nearby residences.

Regards,

Neil





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Old February 6th 04, 08:40 PM
Neil Gould
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Recently, Dennis O'Connor posted:

I almost landed at LNN, as I was headed west along the Lake Erie
shorline when a rolling wall of CB boxed me in and sent me high
tailing back to the east for cover... Blocked out at Elyria I was
headed for Lost Nation until the controller at Cleveland-Hopkins got
all exercised because I was already in his airspace by the time he
got around to putting his coffee down and answering a radio call that
wasn't from Mega Air Cattle Lines... After he got done whining about
the sanctity of his B I was able to see a triple seven on final so I
mentioned I wouldn't mind landing there... He whined a bit more but
cleared me in... Sleeping in the lounge at the Jet Center was a lot
better than sleeping on the floor at LNN...

If you were that far West, you could have opted for Burke Lakefront (BKL).
Cuyahoga County (CGF) is the next stop East between Burke and LNN. No
shortage of options in these parts!

Regards,

Neil



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Old February 7th 04, 02:45 AM
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 12:38:33 GMT, "Neil Gould"
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Hi,

Recently, posted:
(largely snipped)

Wandered around a little bit, discovered they were on the grounds of
the Lost Nation (LNN) airport, in the grass.

Unless this accident was 40 years ago or more, either you were damn lucky,
or just plain nuts. If LNN was dark, I'd have opted for the well-lit
freeway about a mile off the south side or at worst the 4-lane road (Lost
Nation Road) that runs straight for a couple of miles directly adjacent to
the airport, rather than risk the patches of trees, parked planes, and
buildings on the field or the nearby residences.

Regards,

Neil


Wasn't me, I wuz just the guy that had to go help pick up the pieces
(19 years ago).

The PIC is one of two or three pilots I've worked with in this
industry that I would never, under any circumstances second guess.

Might have something to do with the fact that when he left the
freight-dog world for the big leagues (3 years later) he had somewhere
around 15,000 hours, quite a few of which were spent in less than
"ideal" conditions.

I've never had the opportunity to break out of the clouds at night
with my feet soaked in 100LL to a engine out landing in a Twin Beech,
that could also be a contributing factor.

Last time I talked to him, he lamented the fact that most of the crews
he runs around with have no idea what a Beech 18 is.

I agree completely with the "damn lucky" statement, and made it quite
clear at the time that not having a working torch onboard, and not
paying close attention to the location of the 'ship sure as hell
wasn't my area of responsibility.

The busted fuel line was, however...

Regards;

TC


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Old February 4th 04, 04:09 PM
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You can get some of the original versions of halon extinguishers on eBay...
There are a few liquidators which are clearing the older stock for
merchants. I have two and not ONE elephant has EVER shown his head ;-)

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My problem is that I want one for my flight bag but don't want to pay
$105 for the one Sporty's sells. Are there alternatives? Other than
leaving open the chance of dying a horrible, fiery death?

(Sorry, it just doesn't seem that they ought to cost that much..)



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Old February 4th 04, 06:49 PM
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"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message om...
You can get some of the original versions of halon extinguishers on eBay...
There are a few liquidators which are clearing the older stock for
merchants. I have two and not ONE elephant has EVER shown his head ;-)


You can still get Halon ones from the aircraft suppliers.

Fire on board is real bad. You're only option is to get down QUICK. If the
extinguisher gives you another minute or so, it's done it's job. I have a friend
who lost his plane to in-flight fire. Another minute or so in the air and I would
have lost my friend as well.

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Old February 4th 04, 10:22 PM
Wallace Berry
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In article ,
"Ron Natalie" wrote:

"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
om...
You can get some of the original versions of halon extinguishers on eBay...
There are a few liquidators which are clearing the older stock for
merchants. I have two and not ONE elephant has EVER shown his head ;-)


You can still get Halon ones from the aircraft suppliers.

Fire on board is real bad. You're only option is to get down QUICK. If
the
extinguisher gives you another minute or so, it's done it's job. I have a
friend
who lost his plane to in-flight fire. Another minute or so in the air and I
would
have lost my friend as well.



He could have used both an extinguisher and a chute!

For a bunch of rugged individualists, pilots can be the worst bunch of
conformists. I get constant ridicule for carrying a little halon
extinguisher in my homebuilt and also for wearing a chute. My legs are
right under the fuel tank on my little Stits, just like in a Cub, Champ,
etc. Cool or not, I'm gonna have that extinguisher anytime I'm in the
plane. My primary use of the chute is for glider racing. However, since
I'm paying to get the thing repacked all the time, I might as well get
as much use out of it as possible. Situations that require an
extinguisher or a chute are thankfully few, however, either left behind
on the ground are of no use at all if I have a fire inflight.

Race car drivers used to think it was uncool to wear helmets.
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Old February 5th 04, 03:04 AM
Paul Folbrecht
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Cecil,

I just picked one up (had a buy-now price). Thanks for the tip.

Cecil E. Chapman wrote:
You can get some of the original versions of halon extinguishers on eBay...
There are a few liquidators which are clearing the older stock for
merchants. I have two and not ONE elephant has EVER shown his head ;-)

 




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