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Old February 7th 04, 07:50 PM
Judah
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What happens when you tell them that you can do this with your Photo ID?


Big John wrote in
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Judah

I also have demonstrated my ability to sharpen the edge of a credit
card and slice an orange in two. Could do the same thing to a neck. If
I have my way they will be confiscating your credit cards next as
dangerous weapons.

If I hadn't gotten a pace maker and now have neuropathy (sp) (dead
nerves in feet and legs) I'd still have my turbo Mooney and fly myself
and to hell with Ridge and company.

It's hell to wear out and have to fly with the great unwashed masses.

Big John

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:30:40 GMT, Judah wrote:

Big John wrote in
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They let me take my ball point pens of course which I have
demostrated to Ridge and company that they are dangerous instrumenets
and will kill someone.


Geez! I'm surprised they still let people take these things on!!!

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Old February 7th 04, 09:01 PM
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On 2004-02-07, Judah wrote:
What happens when you tell them that you can do this with your Photo ID?

Big John wrote in
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Judah

I also have demonstrated my ability to sharpen the edge of a credit
card and slice an orange in two. Could do the same thing to a neck.


Lets see, one terrorist with a sharp photo ID, another with a sharp
credit card and 200 crazed passengers with laptops? I'm not worried,
that cat is out of the bag.

Hopefully the hyper-focus on the occasional mild inconvenience at the
airport won't keep us from noticing the unmarked white truck in the
basement parking garage...
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Old February 7th 04, 06:04 AM
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Big John wrote in message . ..
Next time if I get caught I'm just going to break the blades off the
knife and take home. No freebee for the checkers (.


I tell ya Big John if I forget to clean out my purse before
I fly commercial I'll be joining Michael on the list of
suspicious characters. Two knives, leatherman tool, two
inhalers, meds removed from their original container....
and that's not even considering my laptop bag.

They let me take my ball point pens of course which I have demostrated
to Ridge and company that they are dangerous instrumenets and will
kill someone.


One of my coworkers is a 'nam vet he points out his shoelaces
are deadly weapons which he was trained to use by the US gov'mt

In one word (pardon me ladies) CRAP.


Le mot juste

Sydney
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Old February 8th 04, 02:27 AM
Big John
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Sydney

It's stupid what we all have to go through with to fly.

1. Make the cockpit invulnerable.

2.. Prevent any explosive from getting into the cabin or baggage.

Anything else the passengers can take care of.

Have stewardesses run through a routine on terrorists in cabin prior
to each takeoff like they do with the rest of the emergency
procedures.

Also teach the Pilots to zoom and dive the aircraft to prevent
terrorists from being able to do any coordinated things in cabin.

Put three pilots in all cockpits so any two could overpower any
individual Pilot who went nuts.

Just wish I was in charge of air travel. Sure would be easier and
safer.

Big John


On 6 Feb 2004 22:04:35 -0800, (Snowbird)
wrote:

Big John wrote in message . ..
Next time if I get caught I'm just going to break the blades off the
knife and take home. No freebee for the checkers (.


I tell ya Big John if I forget to clean out my purse before
I fly commercial I'll be joining Michael on the list of
suspicious characters. Two knives, leatherman tool, two
inhalers, meds removed from their original container....
and that's not even considering my laptop bag.

They let me take my ball point pens of course which I have demostrated
to Ridge and company that they are dangerous instrumenets and will
kill someone.


One of my coworkers is a 'nam vet he points out his shoelaces
are deadly weapons which he was trained to use by the US gov'mt

In one word (pardon me ladies) CRAP.


Le mot juste

Sydney


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Old February 8th 04, 04:28 AM
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"Big John" wrote

Have stewardesses run through a routine on terrorists in cabin prior
to each takeoff like they do with the rest of the emergency
procedures.



Big John

Hmmmm.

I flew a couple weeks ago, and Continental has no such announced terrorist
routine.

Or was that hypothetical?
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Old February 8th 04, 02:57 PM
Snowbird
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"Morgans" wrote in message ...
"Big John" wrote
Have stewardesses run through a routine on terrorists in cabin prior
to each takeoff like they do with the rest of the emergency
procedures.


Hmmmm.


I flew a couple weeks ago, and Continental has no such announced terrorist
routine.


Yes, that was 'BJ's' point

Or was that hypothetical?


Yes, hypothetical, but IMO BJ is absolutely right. The only
flaw in the 'terrorist-proof cockpit door' suggestion is the
Egyptair scenario: how do you defense against a pilot who
goes berserk, if there are two? "Have three" solves the problem
but at an added expense for personnel the airlines would never
go for.

Cheers,
Sydney
 




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