Fly-in SCUBA trips

"Michael 182" wrote in
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Yeah, I understand the decompression issues. Our diving will not be
deep. We will stay for a few days - snorkel the last day. Also,
commercial aviation cabins are pressurized to about 8,000 feet. We can
fly much lower than that.

Thanks,

Michael

"Friedrich Ostertag" wrote in
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Hi Michael,

a "Fly-in SCUBA trip" seems somewhat contradictionary to me, as the
nitrogen accumulation aquired during SCUBA-Diving restricts even
commercial flying for up to 24 hours after a dive. General
recommendation for PADI-Divers is to refrain from diving for 24 hours
before commencing a flight. So unless you plan on staying several
days, your diving would have be very limited.

regards,
Friedrich

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Get a dive computer for sure,.. they can be had in the $200 range. It
tells you exactly when you can fly, and also gives you a hint as to when
to STOP diving if you have to fly the next day.

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Hi Michael,

Yeah, I understand the decompression issues. Our diving will not be
deep. We
will stay for a few days - snorkel the last day.

For whatever reason i was under the impression, that a Fly-in trip
would be more like a day trip, although you didn't say so. If you have
your own plane and can just leave it parked for a few days of course
it's not more of a problem than with commercial flight.

regards,
Friedrich

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"Michael 182" writes:

I am getting my open-water certification. My brother (a less experienced
pilot but a far more experienced diver) and I are looking for some some fly
and dive trips. We are planning to go to Pennekamp in Key Largo. I assume
MTH (Marathon) is the closest airport. Any other destinations people
suggest?

The next time I go down there I hope to stay at Sugar Loaf Lodge
http://www.sugarloaflodge.com/airstrip.htm
and do some diving. It looks like a great place.

--kyler

"Friedrich Ostertag" writes:

a "Fly-in SCUBA trip" seems somewhat contradictionary to me,
nitrogen accumulation aquired during SCUBA-Diving restricts even
commercial flying for up to 24 hours after a dive.

Yeah, last time I went diving in Key West and climbed to 2,000'
for the flight back to Naples I could almost hear the nitrogen
bubbling.

Anyone who is interested in real information about diving and
flying should get involved with DAN.
http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/ne...asp?newsid=210

--kyler

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Kyler Laird wrote:
"Friedrich Ostertag" writes:

a "Fly-in SCUBA trip" seems somewhat contradictionary to me,
nitrogen accumulation aquired during SCUBA-Diving restricts even
commercial flying for up to 24 hours after a dive.

Yeah, last time I went diving in Key West and climbed to 2,000'
for the flight back to Naples I could almost hear the nitrogen
bubbling.

2,000ft shouldn't be a problem, since the pressure change from
-15ft to sea level is the same as the change from sea level to
18,000ft.

Spending an extra day is still the best way though.

John
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Michael
the wife and I are both PADI divers, I would suggest you get a computer, a good
one will keep track on how long you have been under water and monitor your
depth and will calculate when you can fly. Its more precise then using a paper
and pencil to figure it out.

california sucks for diving, the water is cold and its kinda boring. Florida
has shark dives that are real fun. we went on a shark dive off palm beach and
dove off the keys, lots to see there. If you want to see some neat diving pics,
we had a photographer take these when we dove of the Turks and Caios islands.
that was some good diving.
http://www.turboarrow3.com/diving/index.html


Michael 182 wrote:

I am getting my open-water certification. My brother (a less experienced
pilot but a far more experienced diver) and I are looking for some some fly
and dive trips. We are planning to go to Pennekamp in Key Largo. I assume
MTH (Marathon) is the closest airport. Any other destinations people
suggest?

Thanks,

Michael

we dove off the channel islands a couple of years ago, took a dive boat from LA to the channel islands, 4 dives.
Did not like it at all, not near as nice as diving off florida or in the Caribbean. Water is to cold off
california for me. I had to wear hood and gloves as well as a thicker suit.


lance smith wrote:

Hi Micheal,

Well since you're in Colorado isn't the west coast closer? And with
summer coming around southern california is a great place to dive. A
good fly-in/dive-inn place would be Catalina Island.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/avx

Fly in, take a short taxi ride ($15 for 2) to avalon and stay in one
of the nice hotels/resorts. The diving ranges from beginner to
advanced, shallow to deep, visibility is usually great and there is
good/quite nightlife. Check out casino point for a good intro dive.
One interesting thing about the island is that there are very few
cars. Every place can be walked to, but the locals are too lazy so
there are golf carts everywhere. Sunny San Diego has good diving too
but I wouldn't consider it fly-in diving : (

Florida has good diving too (of course). As far as the keys go the
more north you go the better the diving is. So since key west is the
most southern point the diving there sucks the most (in the keys). The
Spiegel Grove is something else, you have to see that. I'd do two
dives on it, if an operator says you have the option to dive elsewhere
for dive #2 turn it down(Diver City in Key Largo recommended). For
something more challenging check out Splash Down Divers in West Palm
Beach/Boynton. They offer drift dives off the coast, it's something
else and something you don't get in Colorado.

for more Florida dive info check out my 2002 trip report in
rec.scuba.locations. (do a search of "lance smith florida" on
groups.google.com and it'll be the 1st one up)

-lance smith

"Michael 182" wrote in message news:lQ71c.167435$uV3.715352@attbi_s51...
I am getting my open-water certification. My brother (a less experienced
pilot but a far more experienced diver) and I are looking for some some fly
and dive trips. We are planning to go to Pennekamp in Key Largo. I assume
MTH (Marathon) is the closest airport. Any other destinations people
suggest?

Thanks,

Michael

The general recommendation for PADI divers is based on the typical
cabin altitude in pressurized airliners of around 8k feet, with the
potential for decompression as well. I will quote the text verbatim from
the 1990 version of their open water dive manual. I'm sure that there
are later versions out there with prettier colors and pictures, but the
basics are pretty universal.

1) if you've made a single no-decompression dive with less than 1 hour
of bottom time, wait at least 4 hours

2) if you have made a signle no-decompression dive with more than 1 hour
of bottom time, or if you have made a repetitive dive, wait at least 12
hours.

3) If you've made any dive requiring EMERGENCY (emphasis mine)
decompression, wait at least 24 hours.

The text goes on to state these are minimums only, and that whenever
possible a 24 hour wait is advised in all cases. Emergency decompression
applies to an unplanned stop, not your routine "safety stops" they
recommend. Of course, you can dive by the book, and never bust a limit
and still possibly get bent afterwards without ever getting on a plane..
people are individuals.

My personal stance is if I'm going to fly-in to a dive trip, I will at
least spend the night and depart the next morning. But, if I had to make
a quick turn, I guess I would be in for a low altitude trip all the way
back.

Dave

Friedrich Ostertag wrote:

Hi Michael,

a "Fly-in SCUBA trip" seems somewhat contradictionary to me, as the
nitrogen accumulation aquired during SCUBA-Diving restricts even
commercial flying for up to 24 hours after a dive. General
recommendation for PADI-Divers is to refrain from diving for 24 hours
before commencing a flight. So unless you plan on staying several days,
your diving would have be very limited.

regards,
Friedrich

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In article 20040304084226.41d7477b@fstop,
R. Hubbell wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:56:41 -0800 Jeff wrote:

california sucks for diving, the water is cold and its kinda boring. Florida

Yes, please spread the word, California diving sucks. Did everyone get that?
So don't come here. It sucks.

That's right, the water is REALLY cold in California. And the
surge is brutal if you want to beach dive at places like Monastery.
The sand isn't soft either.

It sucks, stay away.

John
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The last time I was in California I was at a nude beach (hard to get to, so
only college students there) and everything seemed excellent to me, and for
some reason I had no desire to go dive.


"John Clear" wrote in message
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In article 20040304084226.41d7477b@fstop,
R. Hubbell wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:56:41 -0800 Jeff wrote:

california sucks for diving, the water is cold and its kinda boring.
Florida

Yes, please spread the word, California diving sucks. Did everyone get
that?
So don't come here. It sucks.

That's right, the water is REALLY cold in California. And the
surge is brutal if you want to beach dive at places like Monastery.
The sand isn't soft either.

It sucks, stay away.

John
--
John Clear - http://www.panix.com/~jac