One wing F-15

Anybody know any repeats of the episode????




The History Channel had a program on the F-15 last night
(Friday,040430).
Included was an interview with the Israeli pilot and footage of the
aircraft inbound, on approach and landing.
No other word for it, ... just incredible!

From: "Jay Honeck"
Subject: One wing F-15
Date: Sunday, May 02, 2004 6:28 AM

Wow. That plane should not have flown.

It's not obvious. One wing, going fast enough, will generate a certain
amount of lift, maybe enough to hold the plane up. Remember the pilot
beating himself up for crossing the threshold at 250 kts rather than 120 kts
like he was trained. The issue in my mind was how much aileron was
availble to fly the plane, assuming that just about all that was left was
being used to keep the roll axis right.

"William W. Plummer" wrote in message news:iCalc.16536$Ik.1163558@attbi_s53...
From: "Jay Honeck"
Subject: One wing F-15
Date: Sunday, May 02, 2004 6:28 AM

Wow. That plane should not have flown.

It's not obvious. One wing, going fast enough, will generate a certain
amount of lift, maybe enough to hold the plane up. Remember the pilot
beating himself up for crossing the threshold at 250 kts rather than 120 kts
like he was trained. The issue in my mind was how much aileron was
availble to fly the plane, assuming that just about all that was left was
being used to keep the roll axis right.

When they talked about this on TV they said something like 40% of the
lift comes from the body in this aircraft. So at most he lost 30% of
his lift.

The issue in my mind was how much aileron was
availble to fly the plane, assuming that just about all that was left was
being used to keep the roll axis right.

I believe the F-15 has elevons... so the two horizontal stabilators
move independently and provide some of the roll.

Wow, I'm glad we don't have pilots like that in the U.S. Its not nice
to disobey orders like "eject". He certainly would have been much
safter to have ejected than trying to control that airplane at low
altitude and then trying to land at 260 knots. He must watch too many
John Wayne movies.
I wonder if he lost his wings. Destroying two jets in one day probably
doesn't look to good on your record.





EDR wrote in message ...
The History Channel had a program on the F-15 last night
(Friday,040430).
Included was an interview with the Israeli pilot and footage of the
aircraft inbound, on approach and landing.
No other word for it, ... just incredible!

"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Wow, I'm glad we don't have pilots like that in the U.S. Its not nice
to disobey orders like "eject".

Well, he outranked the instructor, so you can't really say he disobeyed orders.
Superior officers cannot be ordered to do something by an inferior.

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

Howdy!

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G.R. Patterson III wrote:


"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Wow, I'm glad we don't have pilots like that in the U.S. Its not nice
to disobey orders like "eject".

Well, he outranked the instructor, so you can't really say he disobeyed orders.
Superior officers cannot be ordered to do something by an inferior.

....and there may be something to the phrase "Pilot in Command"...

Having read the account/interview, I think the pilot examined his gauges
and indicators, noted no immediate "get out" indications, and was able
to maintain control of the airplane, so long as he kept his speed up.

It sure sounded like reluctance to jump out of a manifestly flyable
airplane.

yours,
Michael


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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ...
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Wow, I'm glad we don't have pilots like that in the U.S. Its not nice
to disobey orders like "eject".

Well, he outranked the instructor, so you can't really say he disobeyed orders.
Superior officers cannot be ordered to do something by an inferior.

Try telling that to the LSO when he waves you off.

Robert

Right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big John

On 4 May 2004 09:41:38 -0700, (Robert M. Gary) wrote:

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ...
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Wow, I'm glad we don't have pilots like that in the U.S. Its not nice
to disobey orders like "eject".

Well, he outranked the instructor, so you can't really say he disobeyed orders.
Superior officers cannot be ordered to do something by an inferior.

Try telling that to the LSO when he waves you off.