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Hazardous Thoughts - Attitudes & /Antidotes:
1. Anti-authority: The rules are for others, not for me. /Follow the rules. They are usually right. 2. Impulsivity: Do something - anything, right now! /Not so fast. Think first. 3. Invulnerability: It won't happen to me. /It could happen to me. 4. Macho: Taking foolish chances shows you have the right stuff. /Taking foolish chances is foolish. 5. Resignation: I'm helpless; I can't do anything. /I'm not helpless. I can make a difference. -Tom Knauff, world recognized glider flight instructor and FAA safety consultant 3 out 5 (Nos. 1, 3, and 4) Joe. Please post where you fly. Some of us might not share your clearly Hazardous Thoughts & Attitudes. |
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I have to agree with Roy on this one. What kind of culture laughs safety
conscious pilots applying worlds best practice off the airfield? The worlds airlines don't use checklists just to keep their printers in business. I always have and always will use a checklist. Not a "do list" but a checklist post assembly and another pre-launch, once pre-launch items have been actioned by pneumonic, to confirm required actions have been completed. CJ "Roy Clark, \"B6\"" wrote: Hazardous Thoughts - Attitudes & /Antidotes: 1. Anti-authority: The rules are for others, not for me. /Follow the rules. They are usually right. 2. Impulsivity: Do something - anything, right now! /Not so fast. Think first. 3. Invulnerability: It won't happen to me. /It could happen to me. 4. Macho: Taking foolish chances shows you have the right stuff. /Taking foolish chances is foolish. 5. Resignation: I'm helpless; I can't do anything. /I'm not helpless. I can make a difference. -Tom Knauff, world recognized glider flight instructor and FAA safety consultant 3 out 5 (Nos. 1, 3, and 4) Joe. Please post where you fly. Some of us might not share your clearly Hazardous Thoughts & Attitudes. |
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Just to be clear I do have checklists and procedures
that are always followed in a very thorough manner. They are not "written" is what I am implying, I think this is very common whether pilots admit it or not. I have helped a lot of very experienced pilots assemble their gliders over the last 15 years, the ones that had a "written" checklist in their hands during assembly are less than 10%. |
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On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:57:19 AM UTC-5, joesimmers wrote:
I have helped a lot of very experienced pilots assemble their gliders over the last 15 years, the ones that had a "written" checklist in their hands during assembly are less than 10%. I agree, glider pilots neglect fundamental and simple to implement safety practices. There is a difference between "common practice" and "aviation industry best practice". The "aviation industry best practice" is a written checklist. A commercial operator who does not follow "best practices" and who has a fatality is going to be accused of negligence. That the operator was following common practice is not a good excuse. I know of a top human factors expert, a guy who spent his life studying pilot errors. He goes one step further than written checklists when assembling his glider. His checklists are in laminated plastic sheets and he uses a dry erase marker to check off the steps as they are completed. I gather from that that he knows of people who have made assembly mistakes even when using a written checklist. |
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On Saturday, February 15, 2014 10:03:26 AM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:
I know of a top human factors expert, a guy who spent his life studying pilot errors. He goes one step further than written checklists when assembling his glider. His checklists are in laminated plastic sheets and he uses a dry erase marker to check off the steps as they are completed. I gather from that that he knows of people who have made assembly mistakes even when using a written checklist. I disagree with having a checklist in the hand during assembly. Way too many people confuse "assembly" with "preflight" and it sounds like this guy is confused. Oops, he's a "top human factors expert", does that make me anti-authority? FWIW, I have post-assembly, pre-flight and pre-take of checklists. I use them all and I recommend this sequence to anyone. The internet FUD (that's "Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt") fight gets tiresome. Evan Ludeman / T8 |
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On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:03:26 AM UTC-8, son_of_flubber wrote:
I agree, glider pilots neglect fundamental and simple to implement safety practices. I know of a top human factors expert, a guy who spent his life studying pilot errors. He goes one step further than written checklists when assembling his glider. His checklists are in laminated plastic sheets and he uses a dry erase marker to check off the steps as they are completed. I gather from that that he knows of people who have made assembly mistakes even when using a written checklist. Another Canadian opinion on Normal accidents: human error and medical equipment design. Steven Dain Department of Anesthesiology and Perioperative Medicine, University of Western Ontario, London Health Sciences Center, London, Canada. The Heart Surgery Forum (Impact Factor: 0.46). 02/2002; 5(3):254-7. Source: PubMed ABSTRACT High-risk systems, which are typical of our technologically complex era, include not just nuclear power plants but also hospitals, anesthesia systems, and the practice of medicine and perfusion. In high-risk systems, no matter how effective safety devices are, some types of accidents are inevitable because the system's complexity leads to multiple and unexpected interactions. It is important for healthcare providers to apply a risk assessment and management process to decisions involving new equipment and procedures or staffing matters in order to minimize the residual risks of latent errors, which are amenable to correction because of the large window of opportunity for their detection. This article provides an introduction to basic risk management and error theory principles and examines ways in which they can be applied to reduce and mitigate the inevitable human errors that accompany high-risk systems. The article also discusses "human factor engineering" (HFE), the process which is used to design equipment/ human interfaces in order to mitigate design errors. The HFE process involves interaction between designers and endusers to produce a series of continuous refinements that are incorporated into the final product. The article also examines common design problems encountered in the operating room that may predispose operators to commit errors resulting in harm to the patient. While recognizing that errors and accidents are unavoidable, organizations that function within a high-risk system must adopt a "safety culture" that anticipates problems and acts aggressively through an anonymous, "blameless" reporting mechanism to resolve them. We must continuously examine and improve the design of equipment and procedures, personnel, supplies and materials, and the environment in which we work to reduce error and minimize its effects. Healthcare providers must take a leading role in the day-to-day management of the "Perioperative System" and be a role model in promoting a culture of safety in their organizations. http://www.researchgate.net/publicat...uipment_design A full .pdf copy is available for those who wish to become more informed about human error issues. |
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This posting raises a very interesting question, nothing to do with
aviation but everything to do with what we do about a person who makes a mistake, who knows what he should do, which he has every intention of doing, which he has done many times before without error but which he fails to do on one occasion resulting in tragedy. What is to be gained by punishing him by putting him in prison? What useful purpose does it serve? Did it reduce the chance of him doing the same thing again? No of course it did not, the result of his failure saw to that. Did it encourage others to take more care? It might except in this case there appears to be no intention of being careless, people do who make mistakes in general have no intention of making mistakes, the opposite in fact. The only possible explanation for the sentence is revenge which achieves nothing. What this sort of action does do is discourage people from reporting honest mistakes. There are other factors that also disincetivise, peer ridicule being one of the major ones. The action by the court in BC has done absolutely nothing to prevent a similar action in the future. If in this case, the error had been discovered prior to the point at which the result was fatal, during the takeoff run for instance, the chances are this would never have seen a court at all. The 5 months was solely the result of the outcome and served no useful purpose at all. Punishment is appropriate perhaps for deliberate acts but never ever for errors, however tragic. During the two world wars many soldiers were shot for desertion, punished for running away. We now know that many of these unfortunates were sick and had no control over what they did, seems we never learn, sometimes I wonder if we want to. For me the real criminals in this case are the judge and prosecutors. |
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This is not a hangglider cultural or safety issue, this is a human pilot issue. Takeoff without elevator connected much? Written checklists are not a cure all. If you need USTALL written down, you are feeble minded. Funny to see the ADM anti-authority stuff trotted out, we need a dangerous attitude for kicking accidents out of our ingroup so we can pretend the cause doesn't apply to us.
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On 2/14/2014 5:57 PM, joesimmers wrote:
Yes in the hanggliding world checklists are pretty much non existent, you would get laughed at for having one, but what they do use is something called a "hang check" What this is is before you launch off of a cliff or slope, you have an assistant hold your nose wires and you drop down into the prone position, when you do this you can crank your head around and visibly see that you have connected your carbineer correctly to your hang strap and backup hang strap. Usually your assistant also verifies this but I always preferred seeing the connection with my own eyes. Yeah, me too. I personally knew 2 people that failed to do that on cliff launches - they were not hooked in. One was fatal, the second pilot was a gymnast who "simply" hung onto the base tube, swung up, trapeze like, hooked in and landed safely. Tony |
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