car seats in taxis

Peter Duniho opined

"gatt" wrote in message
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You know, I'm fairly certain we all grew up just fine without kiddie car
seats, (and bike helmets, and...) so it's not like it's terribly unsafe.

What an odd statement.

All of the folks who flew in B-17s during WWII who might today write a
statement similar to yours managed to come out of it okay too. Does that
mean that being part of the crew on a B-17 over Germany is not "terribly
unsafe"?

Alternatively, instead of being "fairly certain we all grew up just fine
without kiddie car seats", you should consider the children who did NOT grow
up just fine, but instead were killed in a car accident that they would have
survived had they been in a car seat. There were a lot more of those kids
thirty years ago than there are today.

One wonders which is more dangerous, riding a few miles in a car without a
seatbelt (or kiddie seat), or flying in a light aircraft?



-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

On 15 May 04 13:03:22 -0500, "Ash Wyllie" wrote:

One wonders which is more dangerous, riding a few miles in a car without a
seatbelt (or kiddie seat), or flying in a light aircraft?

As a grandparent of two very young girls, I often have cause to notice
that the larger peril in their lives is not the risk of an automobile
accident, but of falling off their chairs in a restaurant, or indeed
of running into the corner of a table while chasing the cats.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
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One wonders which is more dangerous, riding a few miles in a car without a
seatbelt (or kiddie seat), or flying in a light aircraft?

I think that's a fair question. But the risk of each is controllable, and
the risk of riding in the car can be reduced to practically no significant
risk of fatal injury with the proper precautions. It's silly to not take
those precautions, just as it's silly to not take the precautions that help
keep a flight in a light aircraft from being as risky as the overall 4 in
100,000 hours fatal accident rate would otherwise indicate (or whatever the
fatal rate is these days).

Pete

"J. Hansen" wrote in message
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[...] Is there any other
reasonable transportation from IAG to the falls for five adults and
two children that will not require a car seat (we can always leave it
on the plane)? or am I overly cautious in thinking we need a car seat
for two ten minute taxi rides?

As far as safety goes, I guess that depends on how big your five year old is
and whether he is safe under a regular lap belt. Any occupants MUST be
safely secured, even for two ten minute taxi rides. Whether you need a car
seat to do this or not, I can't say, not knowing enough about your
situation.

As far as the taxi ride goes...you mention five adults and two children, so
a) I don't know how old the other child is, and b) I don't see how all those
people will fit into a single sedan. You must either be talking about
multiple taxis or a van or something like that, right?

Here in the Seattle area, there are taxi companies that have their own car
seats. It's possible one or more of the taxi providers in Niagra Falls also
can provide car seats. Certainly it would be worth calling around and
asking. Make sure they not only have car seats, but they have car seats
that will fit the child (children) you have with you.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ...
"J. Hansen" wrote in message
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[...] Is there any other
reasonable transportation from IAG to the falls for five adults and
two children that will not require a car seat (we can always leave it
on the plane)? or am I overly cautious in thinking we need a car seat
for two ten minute taxi rides?

As far as safety goes, I guess that depends on how big your five year old is
and whether he is safe under a regular lap belt. Any occupants MUST be
safely secured, even for two ten minute taxi rides. Whether you need a car
seat to do this or not, I can't say, not knowing enough about your
situation.

My son is about 45 pounds. He's never been in a car without a car seat
and even the one time I've taken him in a taxi I used a car seat. Fortunately
the place we were visiting (the Natural History Museum in Cleveland) had a
place to store the car seat. I am certainly aware of the ironies of worying
about saftey in the car when I never used a carseat myself as a child, and
when I don't worry about taking him in a small plane (a Navajo in this case).

I suspect that my son himself will be the biggest car seat stickler in the
family. I can just see us putting him in the cab and him with a shocked
expression on his face panicing about the lack of a car seat.


As far as the taxi ride goes...you mention five adults and two children, so
a) I don't know how old the other child is, and b) I don't see how all those
people will fit into a single sedan. You must either be talking about
multiple taxis or a van or something like that, right?

The other child is older and does not need a car seat, and yes, I suspect
we will need to take two taxis or take one of those van taxis.

Here in the Seattle area, there are taxi companies that have their own car
seats. It's possible one or more of the taxi providers in Niagra Falls also
can provide car seats. Certainly it would be worth calling around and
asking. Make sure they not only have car seats, but they have car seats
that will fit the child (children) you have with you.

I have already tried calling yellow cab and they do not provide car seats.
I don't know what other cab companies there might be in the area.

"J. Hansen" wrote in message
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I have already tried calling yellow cab and they do not provide car seats.
I don't know what other cab companies there might be in the area.

Well, on switchboard.com alone there are 16 listings for taxi services.
Google turned up a bunch of others too.

Well, on switchboard.com alone there are 16 listings for taxi services.
Google turned up a bunch of others too.


I've been in situations where I needed a cab, and the internet turned up scads.
But when called, many of them don't answer, don't serve the area, or are
closed. Also many cab companies go by many names and many numbers. So, those
16 listings may well be for one company that has been out of business for seven
years.

Jose

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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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[...] those
16 listings may well be for one company that has been out of business for
seven
years.

J. won't know until he calls, will he?

Could be I'm doomed to die in a car wreck tomorrow. I still plan to get out
of bed though.

Pete

On 14 May 2004 09:35:54 -0700, (J. Hansen) wrote:

am I overly cautious in thinking we need a car seat
for two ten minute taxi rides

New York state does not require a car seat for a five-year old. (Under
four is the rule.)

www.nydmv.state.ny.us/dmvfaqs.htm

Jay, my wife and I drove across the United States and back with our
daughter (six months outbound, eight months returning) in a wicker
basket on the floor of a Volkswagen camper. (In Tucson on the way
back, we bought a couple yards of army surplus mosquito netting to tie
over the basket, since she had learned to stand up meanwhile.)

Now a mother herself, our daughter obsesses about car seats. Like
bicycle and skiing helmets, I think it's all much overblown. I'd like
to see her put as much devotion into making the children wash their
hands.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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(J. Hansen) wrote in message . com...
I am planning a trip including my five year old son to Niagara falls
next weekend. We are flying into Niagra Falls International Airport
(IAG) and plan to stay only for the day. The problem is how to get
from the airport to the falls and back. The natural choice is a taxi,
but what do we do with the car seat once we get there? I'd rather not
carry it around all day. We could of course rent a car, but that
seems like an overkill just to create a place to put the car seat. Is
there any place to store a car seat near the falls? Is there any other
reasonable transportation from IAG to the falls for five adults and
two children that will not require a car seat (we can always leave it
on the plane)? or am I overly cautious in thinking we need a car seat
for two ten minute taxi rides?

Jeff H, CP-AM&SEL, CFII

Interesting how things change - When I was 5 years old, no one had
heard of car seats and I was riding around on a farm sitting on the
fender of a tractor.
--
Gene Seibel
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Because I fly, I envy no one.