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![]() "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message om... But today my SkymapIIIc has airways. They are pink on the display. You just put your white course line on the pink airway line and you're flying down the middle of the airway. No need to figure out what VORs or intersections are on the airway when ATC puts you on an airway. Often, near SoCal they don't even name intersections. You'll get instructions from approach like, "Victor 123 to Victor 234 to Victor 345, etc, etc". I've gotten as many as 5 victor airways in my clearance as I approached SoCal, none of which included intersections in the clearance. The SkymapIIIC sure made it easier. However, I just bought the 296 because of the turn coordinator functionality (for emergency partial panels no electrical and no vac) and for the battery life after loss of power. -Robert All you need is a DB 9 connector, basic electronics knowlage and a good rechargeable battery (12V 2 Amp Lith Ion surplus camera pack 18 Volt RC car) and soldering knowledge my power pack cost me less than $25.00 to make for my IIIc and will last a very long time almost 12 hours continuous use I also built a inline charger so when it is plugged in to the airplane power outlet it will keep the battery charged and switch to battery power in the event of aircraft power loss. My battery fits nicely in the seat belt shoulder strap holder in my 150. |
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![]() "John Bell" wrote in message om... From: "Richard Hertz" I have yet to try this myself, but two pilots I know suggested I try it. The airways are defined by VOR radials. GPSs do not seem to navigate them correctly. In fact, one of the pilots mentioned flew with an "instructor" who was relying on a GPS for lateral guidance on an IFR flight plan. The pilot told the instructor to knock it off and use the vors as he was seeing CDI needle deflection. The instructor said not to worry. After some time ATC informed them that they were off the airway (though the gps showed dead-on). You should be able to navigate an airway more accurately using a GPS than you can with a VOR. You should be able to navigate using no GPS. Today there seems to be a reliance on pretty pictures to tell us where we are. The trouble with that is when the picture goes blank, or when the GPS does not put us on the airway. "Should" and what happens in reality are different things. No amount of theory or web links are going to convince the FAA or a controller that you were not on their airway when you should have been. The problem with VORs is that they are not aligned with magnetic north. Usually, they are aligned with magnetic north when the VOR station is first installed, but they are not kept in alignment as the earth's magnetic field shifts. Have you ever noticed how runways are occasionally recharted with new magnetic headings? Also check he http://www.geolab.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag...vt_nmp_e.shtml. Many GPS receivers use a model of the earth's magnetic field that results in a magnetic correction similar to the isogonic lines on the chart. If the instructor executed a direct to the VOR waypoint in the GPS and then used the OBS feature to select the inbound course as depicted by the VOR radial on the chart, he may be several degrees off. If you want to look at an example, go to www.airnav.com and pull up SWL VOR and KOXB (Ocean City). SWL has a variation of 8W (1965) and KOXB has a variation of 12W (2000). There might be a close airport, but SWL is 22 nm from KOXB. Some GPS receivers such as the Garmin 196, 295, 296, 430, and 530 use the slaved value of the VOR for the OBS mode. Thus, setting the OBS mode to a value results in the same path over the ground as if you selected the VOR OBS to the same number. On some GPS receivers, such as the Garmin GPS III Pilot the GPS does not compensate for this VOR misalignment. What I don't know is whether there is any requirement for an IFR certified GPS to use the VOR slaved value for magnetic variation. There is also the possibility that the instructor in your story was using a non-IFR GPS. This is not to say the OBS mode is the best way to navigate an airway, just that this might be a cause for error. A better way is to set up a route in the GPS to reflect points on the airway. Such as from VOR A to VOR B or INTERSECTION to VOR if there is a bend in the airway. John Bell www.cockpitgps.com |
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Most do not. The ONLY panel mount Garmin that has airways is the CNX-80.
Karl Biding my time in Roskilde, Denmark "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Bob Gardner" wrote in message ... An article (actually, a sidebar to an article) in the July IFR magazine says "According to AIM 1-1-20 (f)(7), by omission, you can't just input the VOR as the active waypoint....," and "...according to this passage, the FAA allows GPS to substitute for everything except for a VOR. For some reason, the FAA has faith in its VORs and won't let you substitute GPS for them as a primary means of navigation." Maybe this is why Garmin does not include VOR-based airways. Garmin panel mount units have airways. More likely the reason airways are not included in the handhelds is the limitation on memory for the database. |
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