Yet another reason to Hate AOL

Peter Gottlieb wrote:
I am president of a local Realtor's group and we had the same problems.

First we got blocked as spam because we sent "bulk mail" to 23 addresses.
Then we tried individually but found out we are now "blacklisted as a known
sender of spam."


When I worked as a web developer for a local news paper, we had a
mailing list that would send out the results of classified ad searches
to those who subscribed to a search. Well several morons on hotmail
were too stupid to unsubscribe them self so they reported us as spamers
and then all the hotmail address in the DB bounced every day. I told my
boss and he didn't seem to care, so I didn't bother trying to do
anything about it. I really don't know who the bigger idiots were, the
people who couldn't unsubscribe them self or the morons on hotmail that
didn't even take the time to read the supposed spam messages to see the
clearly spelled out and valid method for unsubscribing.


--
Chris W

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When I worked as a web developer for a local news paper, we had a
mailing list that would send out the results of classified ad searches
to those who subscribed to a search. Well several morons on hotmail
were too stupid to unsubscribe them self so they reported us as spamers
and then all the hotmail address in the DB bounced every day. I told my
boss and he didn't seem to care, so I didn't bother trying to do
anything about it. I really don't know who the bigger idiots were, the
people who couldn't unsubscribe them self or the morons on hotmail that
didn't even take the time to read the supposed spam messages to see the
clearly spelled out and valid method for unsubscribing.

Well, I hear you, but....

In my experience, the "unsubscribe" button in many emails only validates
your email address -- and triggers even MORE email!

I think that's why people are so hesitant to use it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:V5kFc.15773$Oq2.9641@attbi_s52...
In my experience, the "unsubscribe" button in many emails only validates
your email address -- and triggers even MORE email!

I think that's why people are so hesitant to use it.

I think his point is that these people are too stupid to understand that
they asked for the email that arrived, and that there would be only a
benefit to them in using the unsubscribe procedure given.

Yes, spam mail also uses a bogus unsubscribe procedure in order to fool
people into validating their email address. But that doesn't mean that
people should ignore a legitimate procedure listed in legitimate email.

Pete

Well several morons on hotmail
were too stupid to unsubscribe them self


I never "unsubscribe" to suspected spam. I report it and let the chips fall.
Unsubscring is one of the ways spammers know the address is alive.

And I've reported legit stuff too - because a company won't tell me what Email
address they will use to send me stuff, I can't tell whether it's legit or
spoofed from the sender line (and I've gotten plenty of spoofed stuff too).

If you're not a moron, try to improve the system, respecting at the same time
the varied (and complex) ways in which Email is often legitimately used.

Jose

--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

Teacherjh wrote:
Well several morons on hotmail
were too stupid to unsubscribe them self


I never "unsubscribe" to suspected spam. I report it and let the chips fall.
Unsubscring is one of the ways spammers know the address is alive.

If you subscribed to a mailing, then get that mailing and think it is
spam, I would have to call that stupid.


And I've reported legit stuff too - because a company won't tell me what Email
address they will use to send me stuff, I can't tell whether it's legit or
spoofed from the sender line (and I've gotten plenty of spoofed stuff too).

Any good email list software for a legitimate email list will always
have your and only your address in the To: header of the message so it
is easy to see what address they are using to send stuff to you.


--
Chris W

Bring Back the HP 15C
http://hp15c.org

Not getting the gifts you want? The Wish Zone can help.
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:21:01 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Or are they not accepting
emails from my ISP (Mediacom)?

This is possible too. I once used a mailing service that did not
accept from Comcast, my provider.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org

It seems AOL has initiated some sort of an anti-Spam blocker that no longer
accepts group emails.


Nonsense.

I am using AOL 9.0 Optimized for Broadband, and I get all your airport
correspondence, including one only about a half hour ago.

www.Rosspilot.com

I am using AOL 9.0 Optimized for Broadband, and I get all your airport
correspondence, including one only about a half hour ago.

You got it, Lee? Wow, that's weird.

It bounced back to me as if you never got it, saying that it had "delivery
problems"! Did you get the second one I sent, too?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

www.Rosspilot.com

I am using AOL 9.0 Optimized for Broadband, and I get all your airport
correspondence, including one only about a half hour ago.

You got it, Lee? Wow, that's weird.

It bounced back to me as if you never got it, saying that it had "delivery
problems"! Did you get the second one I sent, too?
--

I got one titled "Carl Williams-Airport Commissioner".

That's the only one. And I checked my spam filter and there's nothing in there
from you.

www.Rosspilot.com

That's the only one. And I checked my spam filter and there's nothing in
there
from you.

Lee, that's the SECOND one I sent.

The first one I've tried sending you three times.

Because it has been ONLY AOL users that have bounced back, I can only assume
it's an AOL thing?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"