Looking for Transciever suggestions

You do get to use the equipment again, right? g\

Most importantly, no one got hurt.

How bad is the plane?

Yes - when it is fixed (I'm a partner)

True - I had a passenger who is very happy to be on the ground.

Not too bad. The expected bent prop and potential engine/gear work, and of
course, the much thinner belly of the plane. What everyone remarked (fire and
police) was how little debris there was off the plane. I would like to believe
that it was my skill, though more likely luck, but I set the sucker down
straight as an arrow and nestled it down directly on the middle of the
fuselage. The bottom beacon was untouched.

Will be quite a while before it flies again though. Guess I should just
concentrate on building my multi time g.

The small Vertex, formerly Yaseu. I have one as my only radio and like
it fine. The rechargable battery is a big plus for me.

Earlier I had a Sporty's and didn't care for it. It ate batteries and
was harder to use than the Yaseu.



On 03 Jul 2004 01:46:42 GMT, (Lockrdg) wrote:

Having experienced and successfully survived my first complete electrical
failure, hence no radios (at night mind you), I am looking for suggestions as
to which hand-held transcievers I might looking into buying.

All suggestions are welcome...

Thanks in advance.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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The important thing isn't so much the radio as the antenna. The rubber duck
simply won't work as well as hooking the handheld directly into your
comm/nav antenna.

Most avionics shops can install a small jack where you can plug your
handheld that will utilize the plane's antennas. The range and clarity
difference is dramatic. You can then also plug your headset into the
handheld and work directly through the portable.

The comm portion works great, but I haven't tried this with the nav.

Lockrdg,

Yaesu/Vertex and Icom are the main contenders, I would say. Rather than
getting a VOR-NAV function built-in, I'd og for a separate handheld GPS

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Lockrdg,

Yaesu/Vertex and Icom are the main contenders, I would say. Rather than
getting a VOR-NAV function built-in, I'd og for a separate handheld GPS

Except that here in the USA, it is sometimes necessary to talk to FSS on
a comm frequency and listen on the VOR frequency. This is referred to
as working splits. The ICOM has this capability included using the
function button to select it. The receiver is tuned to the VOR frequency
to listen and when you depress the PTT, it switches to the COMM
frequency to transmit. Release the PTT and it switches back to the VOR
frequency.

When was the last time you did this for real?

Jim


Jay Smith
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:


-Except that here in the USA, it is sometimes necessary to talk to FSS on
- a comm frequency and listen on the VOR frequency.



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Yaesu/Vertex and Icom

I agree with Jim re whether one can ever contact a ground station anymore using
the split frequency...nobody at home??

With respect to the handhelds, you have received some good information, the
external antenna being by far the best. When using an external antenna, it
seems the radio was never told that it should shun horizontally oriented
signals and works just fine on both com and nav. The distances it will receive
and send are amazing.

Jim just had a string about the little box or antenna bypass.

Ask again about the nav function on the Yaesu/Vertex. A friend purchased a
unit 3? months ago and all works well, great features, nice lighting, but the
nav has yet to work. The unit has been more in the shop at the main
Yaesu/Vertex plant in LA than in his hands.

A couple nights ago, after he got it back the third? time, we did a comparison
against an Icom 21 and a Narco 830 (no Narco is recommended for anything...I
have the 830) and both of them performed better than the Yaesu/Vertex.

He has had to chase the radio, with no feedback by Yaesu/Vertex and they must
be goaded for each transaction/followup. That was not always true,and one
wonders if it is because of the Vertex change.

External antenna, however it is done

Plug-in for 12 V power so as to not deplete the battery. (What Icom never
tells you...some of their portables WILL NOT work when plugged into 12V, just
the opposite of what one wants in time of need..ask the question and test each
one that way)

The headset adapter which includes provisons for a pust to talk switch or a
switch itself.

Good luck and come back and tell us what you decide. It helps others.

Neal

On 03 Jul 2004 20:37:33 GMT, (COUGARNFW) wrote:

The headset adapter which includes provisons for a pust to talk switch or a
switch itself.

I found the Yaseu essentially unusable until I got a PTT, from
Sporty's. It velcro's onto the top of the control stick, just like
Captain Midnight!

Might be a bear, though, setting this up while you have an electrical
emergency tothink about. Me, I do it on the ground before getting into
the plane, since the radio is my only comm.

I use the rubber ducky antenna. These are rental planes, and neither
has an outside antenna. I seldom use delta airspace, however. And I
always behave as if I were NORDO. I am reasonably sure however that I
am always heard in the pattern, not so sure that I am heard five or
even three miles out. As for hearing, I can hear Wiscasset in the
north and Marshfield on the south, a radius of 50 NM, from 2900 feet.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Jim Weir wrote:
When was the last time you did this for real?

Had to do it to pick up an IFR clearance while on the ground last year.

Last time I opened a VFR flight plan.

Jim Weir wrote in message . ..
When was the last time you did this for real?

-Except that here in the USA, it is sometimes necessary to talk to FSS on
- a comm frequency and listen on the VOR frequency.