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Old September 24th 04, 03:31 PM
Marco Leon
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Agreed that the TFR situation is ridiculous. However, the tower can not and
should not have to educate pilots about the details of a TFR affecting their
airport over an active frequency while handling traffic. FSS should do that.

Marco

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The whole situation is ridiculous. I'm all for PIC responsibility, but

ATC
needs to know the TFRs in their area and brief pilots appropriately. This
includes stadium schedules. Each new ATC shift change should include such
information. How is ATC being managed anyway?




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Old September 24th 04, 06:36 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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Joe Johnson wrote:

How is ATC being managed anyway?


Poorly, it seems.

George Patterson
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been looking for it.
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Old September 25th 04, 01:40 AM
Judah
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It's not even about PR, because quite frankly, no one is talking about
the TFRs except pilots..

I'm not sure what the motivation is, exactly. In some ways, I think it is
similar to speeding tickets on highways. They actually want people to
bust the TFRs so they can use it as ammunition to eliminate GA
altogether...

"Joe Johnson" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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The FSS people don't seem to have a Yankees schedule, and don't have
any interest in getting one. Recently, when there were no other
distractions (you know, like visits from Dubya and UN Meetings), a
briefer I spoke to told me that and told me to check the schedule. Of
course, I didn't have one either, so I called my cousin who is a fan.

I thank the Lord every day that us little Cessnas and Pipers are
prohibited from flying within 3 NM of Yankee Stadium when there is a
game on. After all, if somebody hijacks a 747 and nosedives it into
Yankee stadium at 500KIAS, I'm sure they'll be able to scrounge up
F-16s to intercept it within the 20 seconds it wil take the 747 to fly
the 3NM through the TFR... And I don't want to be there when that
happens!

These security measures against small single engine aircraft are so
outrageous. It's all about PR, trying to convince the public at large
that officials are "doing something" about terrorism. As somenone put
it on one of these newsgroups a few montths ago, when terrorists start
using such craft, we'll know we're safe, because they've run out of
good ideas.




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Old September 25th 04, 03:14 AM
G.R. Patterson III
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Judah wrote:

It's not even about PR, because quite frankly, no one is talking about
the TFRs except pilots..

I'm not sure what the motivation is, exactly.


The motive is that a variety of people feel that they should get a cut of the
advertising income from the banner towers that used to fly over the stadiums.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.
 




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