Flying while deaf

I had a deaf student awhile back. He was already a pilot and wanted a tailwheel
endorsement and this eventually lead to a Pitts Special checkout. One of the
more challenging students I have had. We did it.
I met with the controllers at the tower to set up a procedure for him.
Basically it went like this. We (the flight school) would call the tower via
land line ahead of his flight to let the tower know that he was coming out. The
tower would then communicate with him via light gun signals for the taxi and
takeoff. He always flew a standardized departure to avoid confusion. If he was
going to do something different, we would let the tower know ahead of time.
When he came back from the flight he would fly and be treated just like a NORDO
aircraft. It worked well.



-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*

(bryan chaisone) wrote in message . com...
How does one communicate with ATC when one is deaf?

Deaf pilots have a limitation on their license, "Not Valid for Flights
Requiring the Use of Radio".

Check these links for more info:

http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/deaffaq.cfm

http://www.deafpilots.com/faq.html

On 26 Sep 2004 00:54:08 -0700, (Brien K.
Meehan) wrote:

Deaf pilots have a limitation on their license, "Not Valid for Flights
Requiring the Use of Radio".

But wouldn't that rule out even Delta airspace?

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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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But wouldn't that rule out even Delta airspace?


No. One can obtain authorization to operate NORDO aircraft in Class D
airspace, that's essentially the same situation as a deaf pilot.

(bryan chaisone) wrote in message . com...
How does one communicate with ATC when one is deaf?

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

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Bryan
I trained a couple of pilots who were deaf and they often went into
controlled airports. It was done via flight plans in which the
destination airport was advised NO RADIO and the pilots look for light
signals on arrival downwind. My pilots would write out their flight
plan and ask someone to call FSS to file it for them (via notes and
pantomime)and to open it when they took off. Certainly they would be
unable to fly legally in Class B but even then a 7600 transponder code
would alert ATC to a potential problem.
On a recent training flight we lost electrical and for all practical
purposes were "deaf". It was good for my student as he was able to see
how to actually come back into controlled airspace, alert the tower of
a radio problem, and land/taxi back to parking. No big deal if you use
your head and all the available resources.
Ol Shy & Bashful

"Rocky" wrote in message
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I trained a couple of pilots who were deaf and they often went into
controlled airports. It was done via flight plans in which the
destination airport was advised NO RADIO and the pilots look for light
signals on arrival downwind.


Where was this? In the US VFR flight plans are not sent to ATC facilities.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net...
"Rocky" wrote in message
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I trained a couple of pilots who were deaf and they often went into
controlled airports. It was done via flight plans in which the
destination airport was advised NO RADIO and the pilots look for light
signals on arrival downwind.


Where was this? In the US VFR flight plans are not sent to ATC facilities.

Are you now splitting hairs? I thought the whole idea of the original
post was how does a deaf pilot get along with no radio communication.
In the overall scheme of things, isn't FSS, Tower Apch/Dep control,
Center, all on the radio part of ATC? Go ahead and split hairs. What
is air traffic control if it isn't control of aircraft in the air? I'm
impressed by your posts and challenges but are they very useful?
Geeeeezzzoooooh

"Rocky" wrote in message
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Are you now splitting hairs?


I don't think so.



I thought the whole idea of the original post was how does a deaf pilot
get along with no radio communication. In the overall scheme of things,
isn't FSS, Tower Apch/Dep control, Center, all on the radio part of
ATC?


No.



Go ahead and split hairs. What is air traffic control if it isn't control
of
aircraft in the air? I'm impressed by your posts and challenges but are
they very useful?


It can also be control of aircraft on the ground, as is provided by control
towers at controlled fields. Towers, TRACONs, and Centers control aircraft
in the air, FSSs do not.



Geeeeezzzoooooh


I'm not familiar with that term.

Let me clarify my question. As a rated pilot, I am aware of the use
of light signals when your radio is out. My question should have been
'Are there ways for a deaf pilot to communicate with ATC other than
using light signals?'.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

(bryan chaisone) wrote in message . com...
How does one communicate with ATC when one is deaf?

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

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"bryan chaisone" wrote in message
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Let me clarify my question. As a rated pilot, I am aware of the use
of light signals when your radio is out. My question should have been
'Are there ways for a deaf pilot to communicate with ATC other than
using light signals?'.


Nope.