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#11
October 12th 04, 03:38 PM
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Hi Mike,
The world record for helos is held by a French helicopter called a Lama at something like FL410. IIRC, one of them had to autorotate to land because of a stripped-out battery (weight...) combined with an in flight failure of the engine... was that the Lama or the AS350? Regards, Peter 
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October 12th 04, 04:22 PM
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Newps wrote in message ...
Robert M. Gary wrote: The other day I heard on Center "Helicopter 1234 with you Flight Level 340". This can't be possible, can it? Nope, not possible. FL340 is not a useable altitude until January 2005. Is that necessarily true? I've been given some odd altitudes at times in my Mooney, for reasons I don't know. I've been assigned 5500 when IFR, I've been assigned an odd when flying West, etc. Not very common, but I've had it happen. I'm not sure why though. Perhaps the pilot requested to go just a bit higher to top some CU? I"m not sure about the Flight Levels, but down where I fly the FARs only say you have to fly at the magic IFR altitudes when uncontrolled. When in controlled airspace and IFR you fly whatever ATC assigns. -Robert
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#13
October 12th 04, 04:22 PM
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Newps wrote in message ...
Robert M. Gary wrote: The other day I heard on Center "Helicopter 1234 with you Flight Level 340". This can't be possible, can it? Nope, not possible. FL340 is not a useable altitude until January 2005. Is that necessarily true? I've been given some odd altitudes at times in my Mooney, for reasons I don't know. I've been assigned 5500 when IFR, I've been assigned an odd when flying West, etc. Not very common, but I've had it happen. I'm not sure why though. Perhaps the pilot requested to go just a bit higher to top some CU? I"m not sure about the Flight Levels, but down where I fly the FARs only say you have to fly at the magic IFR altitudes when uncontrolled. When in controlled airspace and IFR you fly whatever ATC assigns. -Robert
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October 12th 04, 05:41 PM
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Newps wrote in message ...
Robert M. Gary wrote: The other day I heard on Center "Helicopter 1234 with you Flight Level 340". This can't be possible, can it? Nope, not possible. FL340 is not a useable altitude until January 2005. Care to elaborate? Do you mean we have been doing something illegal all these years?
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October 12th 04, 05:41 PM
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Newps wrote in message ...
Robert M. Gary wrote: The other day I heard on Center "Helicopter 1234 with you Flight Level 340". This can't be possible, can it? Nope, not possible. FL340 is not a useable altitude until January 2005. Care to elaborate? Do you mean we have been doing something illegal all these years?
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October 12th 04, 06:21 PM
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"SelwayKid" wrote in message om... Newps wrote in message ... Robert M. Gary wrote: The other day I heard on Center "Helicopter 1234 with you Flight Level 340". This can't be possible, can it? Nope, not possible. FL340 is not a useable altitude until January 2005. Care to elaborate? Do you mean we have been doing something illegal all these years? In the U.S. all Flight Levels 290 and above are odd thousands to give 2000 ft. separation. E.G. FL 290 eastbound, FL 310 westbound, FL 330 eastbound etc. Newps is probably talking about the reduced separation coming up if you have certain equipment installed? Al
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October 12th 04, 06:21 PM
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"SelwayKid" wrote in message om... Newps wrote in message ... Robert M. Gary wrote: The other day I heard on Center "Helicopter 1234 with you Flight Level 340". This can't be possible, can it? Nope, not possible. FL340 is not a useable altitude until January 2005. Care to elaborate? Do you mean we have been doing something illegal all these years? In the U.S. all Flight Levels 290 and above are odd thousands to give 2000 ft. separation. E.G. FL 290 eastbound, FL 310 westbound, FL 330 eastbound etc. Newps is probably talking about the reduced separation coming up if you have certain equipment installed? Al
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#18
October 13th 04, 04:12 AM
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Robert M. Gary wrote: Newps wrote in message ... Robert M. Gary wrote: The other day I heard on Center "Helicopter 1234 with you Flight Level 340". This can't be possible, can it? Nope, not possible. FL340 is not a useable altitude until January 2005. Is that necessarily true? I've been given some odd altitudes at times in my Mooney, for reasons I don't know. I've been assigned 5500 when IFR, That was probably the controllers MVA. We use 6500 and 9300 here all the time because it is our MVA. I've been assigned an odd when flying West, etc. Not very common, but I've had it happen. I'm not sure why though. We use 13,000 westbound all the time here because it is the lowest useable altitude over the mountains on one of our most popular airways. Perhaps the pilot requested to go just a bit higher to top some CU? I"m not sure about the Flight Levels, but down where I fly the FARs only say you have to fly at the magic IFR altitudes when uncontrolled. When in controlled airspace and IFR you fly whatever ATC assigns. Until January when all aircraft will be required to meet the RVSM standard FL 340 is not a useable altitude.
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#19
October 13th 04, 04:12 AM
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Robert M. Gary wrote: Newps wrote in message ... Robert M. Gary wrote: The other day I heard on Center "Helicopter 1234 with you Flight Level 340". This can't be possible, can it? Nope, not possible. FL340 is not a useable altitude until January 2005. Is that necessarily true? I've been given some odd altitudes at times in my Mooney, for reasons I don't know. I've been assigned 5500 when IFR, That was probably the controllers MVA. We use 6500 and 9300 here all the time because it is our MVA. I've been assigned an odd when flying West, etc. Not very common, but I've had it happen. I'm not sure why though. We use 13,000 westbound all the time here because it is the lowest useable altitude over the mountains on one of our most popular airways. Perhaps the pilot requested to go just a bit higher to top some CU? I"m not sure about the Flight Levels, but down where I fly the FARs only say you have to fly at the magic IFR altitudes when uncontrolled. When in controlled airspace and IFR you fly whatever ATC assigns. Until January when all aircraft will be required to meet the RVSM standard FL 340 is not a useable altitude.
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#20
October 13th 04, 06:11 AM
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Could have been Descending or climbing, avoiding traffic, or not even been
in US airspace.... There is a lot of non-US airspace "Allen" wrote in message ... "SelwayKid" wrote in message om... Newps wrote in message ... Robert M. Gary wrote: The other day I heard on Center "Helicopter 1234 with you Flight Level 340". This can't be possible, can it? Nope, not possible. FL340 is not a useable altitude until January 2005. Care to elaborate? Do you mean we have been doing something illegal all these years? In the U.S. all Flight Levels 290 and above are odd thousands to give 2000 ft. separation. E.G. FL 290 eastbound, FL 310 westbound, FL 330 eastbound etc. Newps is probably talking about the reduced separation coming up if you have certain equipment installed? Al
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