Round the World route?

Well that's a pathetic attitude. If you don't care to give pathetic
pedantic
answers to pathetic questions then restrain yourself. We are not all as
gifted as you are.

Bill

He's not gifted Bill, just not pathetic either :-)

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:25:26 -0500, "Bill" wrote:

Well that's a pathetic attitude.

No it's not.

What is pathetic is to not make the effort to get out an atlas, plot
out a route and fly it. This is not only fun but also educational.

I flew the FS95(?) Learjet around the world using a 'Compact World
Atlas', a circular protractor and a lot of trial and error. On the way
I learnt about navigating using VORs and NDBs and how to fly an ILS
approach. It was fun because I was doing it myself, learning as I went
and the sense of achievement at the end was remarkable. I commend it
to others.

We are not all as gifted as you are.

It's not a question of being gifted or not. It's a question of common
sense and application.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow.
Overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in Argyll, Scotland.
http://tinyurl.com/55v3

"Alan White" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:25:26 -0500, "Bill" wrote:

Well that's a pathetic attitude.

No it's not.

What is pathetic is to not make the effort to get out an atlas, plot
out a route and fly it. This is not only fun but also educational.

I flew the FS95(?) Learjet around the world using a 'Compact World
Atlas', a circular protractor and a lot of trial and error. On the way
I learnt about navigating using VORs and NDBs and how to fly an ILS
approach. It was fun because I was doing it myself, learning as I went
and the sense of achievement at the end was remarkable. I commend it
to others.

We are not all as gifted as you are.

It's not a question of being gifted or not. It's a question of common
sense and application.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow.
Overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in Argyll, Scotland.
http://tinyurl.com/55v3


Well bully for you!

"Clive" wrote:
What's the recognised route around the world. Planning on doing it in the
Baron.

I'm still halfway around in my DC-3.
Below you'll find my flightplan as it stands now. You can either fill it
from
there or just use some of the points.
The first leg (CYYT - LPCR) is crucial if you want to cross the Atlantic,
but crossing over Greenland is always an option. From there it's a piece
of cake making it to Iceland and the UK and the rest of Europe.
But I've come across some really nice and sometimes strange scenery.

Flying over New Zealand is a MUST!! Have fun at Mount Cooke (YMCO)!

CYYT - LPCR
LPCR - LPMA
LPMA - GQNC
GQNC - DRRN
DRRN - FCOK
FCOK - FLMW
FLMW - Z23K
Z23K - FIMP
FIMP - FJDG
FJDG - YPCC
YPCC - YSHK
YSHK - YCDU
YCDU - YMCO
YMCO - NZMC
NZMC - NZTG
NZTG - NIUE
NIUE - NTAA
NTAA - NTGJ
NTGJ - SCIP
SCIP - SCFX
SCFX - SLCC

To this point the trip is 22372.2nm, using 9420.9 gallons of fuel.
Total flighttime in the DC-3 (averaging FL170) is 111:11.52'

The plan from here is to fly up South America, over the Southern states
of the US and back up to St. Johns, New Foundland, Canada.

The real challenge is flying a straight line over both poles, or flying the
full length of the equator.

Have fun!
Marcel

Marcel Kuijper wrote:

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SCFX - SLCC

To this point the trip is 22372.2nm, using 9420.9 gallons of fuel.
Total flighttime in the DC-3 (averaging FL170) is 111:11.52'

The plan from here is to fly up South America, over the Southern states
of the US and back up to St. Johns, New Foundland, Canada.

The real challenge is flying a straight line over both poles, or flying the
full length of the equator.

Have fun!
Marcel


Nice plan Marcel,
I'm sure you know, that you can't make the poles and the equator route
is boring because there is too much water. I'm not keen to count
fishes - even if there are flying g.
It's not too easy to plan a really interesting flight just staying
close to a great circle. The best chance to have as much land as
possible is starting somewhere in Europe towards Auckland.
--
Regards
Axel

Hi Alan,

Here here, as they say!!

There's some Scottish pipes and drums regimental band coming to Brissie'
soon, and I'll be there, with bells on! :-)

I also heard that there's going to be some form of Edinburgh Tattoo
transported out here, and performing to commemorate some aspect of Aussie'
contribution. I'll never forget the clear, warm night we had the time I saw
it in Scotland with my parents.

Regards,
John

I feel sorry and embarrassed when blokes like Bill display such
ignorance, and lack of understanding.

Regards,
John
"Alan White" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:25:26 -0500, "Bill" wrote:

Well that's a pathetic attitude.

No it's not.

What is pathetic is to not make the effort to get out an atlas, plot
out a route and fly it. This is not only fun but also educational.

I flew the FS95(?) Learjet around the world using a 'Compact World
Atlas', a circular protractor and a lot of trial and error. On the way
I learnt about navigating using VORs and NDBs and how to fly an ILS
approach. It was fun because I was doing it myself, learning as I went
and the sense of achievement at the end was remarkable. I commend it
to others.

We are not all as gifted as you are.

It's not a question of being gifted or not. It's a question of common
sense and application.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow.
Overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in Argyll, Scotland.
http://tinyurl.com/55v3

No lack of anything here and please dont feel sorry for me. I just dont
understand why it is necessary to demean or insult people when they ask a
question, no matter how trivial it may appear. If that is the way to respond
then better not respond and stay away from the NG's.

These groups have people from all walks and backgrounds so again dont feel
sorry for me but rather for yourselves
Is civilty is too much to ask for?

Bill

Hi Bill,

Of course not! Civility is to be expected.

Where are you from, Bill, if you don't mind me asking?

Regards,
John
"Bill" wrote in message
news
No lack of anything here and please dont feel sorry for me. I just dont
understand why it is necessary to demean or insult people when they ask a
question, no matter how trivial it may appear. If that is the way to
respond
then better not respond and stay away from the NG's.

These groups have people from all walks and backgrounds so again dont feel
sorry for me but rather for yourselves
Is civilty is too much to ask for?

Bill

I agree with you Bill.

Alan could quite easily have put in his later response instead of his first
for a reply to the question.

I flew the FS95(?) Learjet around the world using a 'Compact World
Atlas', a circular protractor and a lot of trial and error. On the way
I learnt about navigating using VORs and NDBs and how to fly an ILS
approach. It was fun because I was doing it myself, learning as I went
and the sense of achievement at the end was remarkable. I commend it
to others.

And no hackles would have been raised.

TR.

"Bill" wrote in message
news
No lack of anything here and please dont feel sorry for me. I just dont
understand why it is necessary to demean or insult people when they ask a
question, no matter how trivial it may appear. If that is the way to
respond
then better not respond and stay away from the NG's.

These groups have people from all walks and backgrounds so again dont feel
sorry for me but rather for yourselves
Is civilty is too much to ask for?

Bill

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:13:59 GMT, "TR" wrote:

Alan could quite easily have put in his later response instead of his first
for a reply to the question.

I don't want to drag this out but the OP asked 'Can anyone point me to
a flightplan in FSNavigator for such a route?'

My first response was 'It's there by default.' which answered the
second part of his query.

So the OP not only didn't have the initiative to sort himself out but
had the answer sitting under his nose all the time but was too lazy to
look.

The post which presumably raised the hackles was my response to
quilljar in which I said 'I think it's pathetic to even ask the
question.' On reflection, the wording was insensitive, and I apologise
for that, but I stand by the sentiment.

Enlarging on my earlier post, we seem to have entered a culture in
which people will do anything other than try to help themselves.
Usenet is very useful to these people because there is always some
helpful soul who will come to their rescue. There is then no incentive
for said people to read manuals, read FAQs, read previous posts or to
experiment. In other words, no incentive to seek out answers or to
learn by experience, which is one of the most valuable ways of
achieving knowledge.

I'm now sixty-six, and that probably shows, but if my ageing brain can
cope then anyone can.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow.
Overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in Argyll, Scotland.
http://tinyurl.com/55v3