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Old December 3rd 03, 09:29 AM
Janusz Kesik
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How can you hope to compete with the German University trained =
whiz-kid
designers?


Huh... I'll have a great mood for today! Laugh is good in the morning. =

Stereotypes again...

Have a nice day,

Janusz Kesik

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Old December 4th 03, 04:30 AM
Slingsby
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Tanel wrote in message ...
Think a little bit. Do you call Lak-17/19 and Genesis2, HPH produced
Glasfluegel 304CZ and ELAN/AMS gliders DG-505/1000 eastern-block
manufactured crap? Lak-17 showed its perfomance at Lezsno last summer
and it wasn't bad at all.

Tanel (flown Blaniks Jantars and Laks- all so called eastern-block
manufactured crap)

John wrote:

The LAK 17/19 and Genesis gliders made at the LAK factory are all very
well manufactured products with a high degree of workmanship. They
also use (at least the Genesis) parts and raw materials which come
from USA, Germany, England and Sweden. Carpenter steel, AN hardware,
Cleveland wheel and brake systems and hydraulics; springs from Century
Spring. Resin and glass/carbon/kevlar cloth from Germany; bearings,
bellcranks, pushrods, hinges, pivots etc. from Germany and the USA.
Foam from Sweden springs and gas struts from England. What the LAK
17/19 and Genesis gliders DON"T have is tinkertoy wing spars which
have to be bonded blindly and then aren't/can't be inspected for bond
continuity after assembly. If the LS gliders get transferred to LAK
they shgould let the LAK engineers redesign the wing so it has a good
strong well glued spar instead of a maybe so maybe not upper spar cap.
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Old December 3rd 03, 04:58 PM
Kevin Neave
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And how many German Duos / Discuses were inspected
to see that they didn't have similar problems ?

:-)

At 15:42 03 December 2003, Guy Byars wrote:

intercept much of the production as we can do it at
least equally good and

at the lower price.

Equally good in Eastern Europe? Like, Duo-Discus spars
for example?








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Old December 3rd 03, 05:14 PM
Young Pratt
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Come on dont knock the east too much,some of the designs and proformance have
been very good,build quality crap, but then without materials! im sure ive
seen some eastern manifactures walking around BQ looking at various hinges and
screws,ask Tim Mc fad,and Graham Morris what they think of eastern build
quality.Or better still check the BGA TECH page and add up all the M mods for both
east and west gliders.

The real issue is if your poor buy eastern crap,and if your Dad is rich get
him to buy western over priced gliders, purhaps we could have some more
nationals! or better still make the gsa fly the eastern regionals flying eastern
gliders and all the rich people fly from the south and west with the best west
gliders and we could all stay in The Best Western hotels and the poor with the
gsa stay in tents!




 




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