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"Janusz Kesik" wrote:
Any enquiries about the details could be asked using the contacts given on the Beres Design Bureau website: Very nice pictures, and a nice glider. What about certification? will it get JAR certificate? Can someone translate the most sognificative parts of the polish text? thank you very much Aldo Cernezzi |
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cernauta napisał(a):
"Janusz Kesik" wrote: Any enquiries about the details could be asked using the contacts given on the Beres Design Bureau website: Very nice pictures, and a nice glider. What about certification? will it get JAR certificate? Can someone translate the most sognificative parts of the polish text? Hi My inglish isn't too good but i'll try to translate part of this text, the impressions of test pilot Mariusz Stajewski after few first flights. It is said that if the flying machine looks good it flies good, and this glider looks great and flies even better. Diana-2 was towed by Wilga, after less than 100m the glider was in the air. The flaps was set to +5, visibility to the front is very good (in Diana "1" it was needed to set the flaps to maximum + position in order to see at least tips of tow plane wings). The forces on stick are minimal. After landing gear beeing retracted and ventilation closed it was very quietly inside the cockpit. Looking to the front the visibility is just great, when you look to the side you can see very rare view the inclined leading edge of the wing, winglet on the tip and almost 7 meter long flapperon made as a one component. The wing finished like mirror. During the tow glider makes no problem to the pilot, after the release (about 2400m agl) beggins the fun of free flight with this "ferrari" among gliders. Tge altitude desrease very slowly, and the terrain runs rapidly to the back. You feel like racing. With flaps set to the max position (+28) glider lowers nose but it is no problem to maintain full control with speed of about 60 km/h. While setting flaps to -2 position glider accelarates like it has engine, and you can hardly feel significant height loss during this menoeuvre. Accelerating is fast and with flat path. Flapperons makes chcnaging of circiling direction very fast, not more than 3 seconds. Full flap landing can be done with very steep flight path and there is almost no need to use air brakes to reduce speed. Diana-2 has very good wheel brake. Flying this glider is a pure pleasure. I can't wait till it will be possible to test Diana-2 during thermal flight on XC with water (240 liters!), in tight thermals and with high cloud base. test pilot Mariusz Stajewski From what was said on our polish news gropus it is almost certain that Janusz Centka will fly Diana-2 during European Championships in Rayskala July 2005 and earlier in May during Polish Open Class Nationals in Leszno regards PS please don't laugh of my english, I'm sure that ia made a lot of errors -- --=JJay=-- www.aeroklub.deblin.pl, moje zdjęcia na airfoto.pl - http://tiny.pl/pkv "jutro to dzi¶, tyle że jutro" S. Mrożek, Get smart - http://www.GetFireFox.com |
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--=JJay=-- wrote:
My inglish isn't too good but i'll try to translate part of this text, the impressions of test pilot Mariusz Stajewski after few first flights. Thank you very much! Aldo |
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cernauta wrote:
Very nice pictures, and a nice glider. What about certification? will it get JAR certificate? Can someone translate the most sognificative parts of the polish text? Here You'll find some info in english: http://www.dianasailplanes.com/szd55.html rgrds, Rumun |
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There was some rumours of an 18m version and a 22m
Open Class version - any news on these? The 15m racing class will probably be a dead duck in 5 years time. (at least in Europe) |
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"Nick Olson"
The 15m racing class will probably be a dead duck in 5 years time. (at least in Europe) mmm, that´s wise foresee means that in a five years time i will be able to get a 15m racing class ship(e.g. an ASW-27) for free? |
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Out of curiousity....is the rate of participation in
racing any higher in Europe then elsewhere?(I only can look at the US and Canada, where it is less then 5%). Without getting into a flame war about racing, do the manufacturers dream up new classes in order to push product? In strong conditions would not a 15 meter ship compete quite well with its longer winged brothers? I know, racing only occurs in weak conditions ![]() At 16:00 13 January 2005, Nick Olson wrote: There was some rumours of an 18m version and a 22m Open Class version - any news on these? The 15m racing class will probably be a dead duck in 5 years time. (at least in Europe) |
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At 18:00 13 January 2005, An Empty Pocket wrote:
'Nick Olson' mmm, that´s wise foresee means that in a five years time i will be able to get a 15m racing class ship(e.g. an ASW-27) for free? No, unfortunately, for the same reasons you won't get any ex competition type sailplane for free! All major European manufacturers are making 18m class ships (I believe DG are not making a 15m version of the LS10 now? -at least according to their west coast US agent) Performance differences between Std and 15M class in European conditions are fairly small - the writings on the wall and been there a while. |
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I think your claimed demise of the 15m class might be a bit premature.
It is still the most popular class in the US and 2nd most popular in all of the recent World/European championships. Kevin Nick Olson wrote: At 18:00 13 January 2005, An Empty Pocket wrote: 'Nick Olson' mmm, that=B4s wise foresee means that in a five years time i will be able to get a 15m racing class ship(e.g. an ASW-27) for free? No, unfortunately, for the same reasons you won't get any ex competition type sailplane for free! All major European manufacturers are making 18m class ships (I believe DG are not making a 15m version of the LS10 now? -at least according to their west coast US agent) Performance differences between Std and 15M class in European conditions are fairly small - the writings on the wall and been there a while. |
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Motorgliders are becoming increasingly popular, especially in Europe.
The 15M class doesn't support an engine as efficiently. This is why the 18M is being favored. As for performance differences between the pure sailplanes, they only become apparent when the lift strength falls below 3 knots. The 18M ship don't run away, but they do start gaining both in run and climb. I like the mix of nimbleness and performance of the 15M class. And I love the high speed performance. If these gliders lose favor, I'll be disappointed, at least until I buy my first 18M glider and discover its charms. |
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