Tracking the Elusive Tracing Paper

Richard Lamb wrote:
guynoir wrote:

I've been doing a lot of reverse engineering using Deltacad. I scan a
1963-vintage mylar drawing and then paste it full size into Deltacad,
then I can trace directly over the image. I've done drawings 13 feet
long and 5 feet wide that way (these are Sikorsky S-64 parts). I can
use Deltacad to adjust the scale of the image in x and y directions to
get within .020 across a 12 foot drawing, but I have to use an image
editor to take any warpage, skew etc. out of the image.

Once I get a usable 2d vector drawing, I can import it into a modeling
program and design tooling, flat patterns, 3d parts, etc. Deltacad
works much better than the automatic vectorizing program I was using before.

Another thing I really like about Deltacad is the great flexibility and
ease of printing drawings on a large format plotter (or any printer for
that matter). The Oshkosh satellite photo posted here a couple weeks
ago happened to be a really high resolution image. I copied it into
Deltacad and printed it out on 42" wide photo paper. It looks really
nice thumb tacked to the wall.

I used the demo version for about a year before I sprung $50 for the
non-watermark version.

For me, Deltacad is the ultimate tracing paper.

--
John Kimmel


I think it will be quiet around here now. So long.



I WANT YOUR PRINTER !

Printing large format can be difficult. I drew the wing rib profiles of
the Dyke Delta (each one is different) and took them down to the local
CopyMax. It was to big and they couldn't handle it. First of all, it
had to be in PDF format and then it just locked up thier computer.

We finally figured out that we could print it half-size on one of their
printers and then use one of there automatic enlargers to get it to the
proper size. The printout was 8ftx4ft.

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"Ignorance is mankinds normal state,
alleviated by information and experience."
Veeduber

In article ,
Veeduber wrote:
[[.. munch ..]]
strapped it to the top of my 1965 VW bus and ran it up & down Highway
395 to see how it worked. Which was good, except for that nice man from the
California Highway Patrol... who eventually let me off with a warning.

I can just _imagine_ that conversation!

Has to rival one I had when I went through a radar speed trap at an
excessive speed, _on_a_bicycle_. Long, *long*, time ago -- and, at that
time, in that place, the speed limit statutes applied to *motor* vehicles
only. It was apparently a slow afternoon for law-enforcement, and fairly
shortly there was a 'committee meeting' of what seemed to be _most_ of
the cops for that side of town. _Spirited_ discussion regarding what *could*
I be cited for, if they were of a mind to do so. Even 'reckless driving'
turned out to be a 'motor vehicle'(only) offense. Something like 30 minutes
later, with more than a dozen officers 'on scene', including 2 sargents,
and a lieutenant, nobody had been able to find anything that 'fit the crime'.
Note: I'd been 'free to go' since shortly after the 1st additional officer
showed up on the scene, but it the whole thing was _good_ entertainment, so
I stuck around to watch the show. grin

"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
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In article ,
Veeduber wrote:
[[.. munch ..]]
strapped it to the top of my 1965 VW bus and ran it up & down Highway
395 to see how it worked. Which was good, except for that nice man from the
California Highway Patrol... who eventually let me off with a warning.

I can just _imagine_ that conversation!

Has to rival one I had when I went through a radar speed trap at an
excessive speed, _on_a_bicycle_. Long, *long*, time ago -- and, at that
time, in that place, the speed limit statutes applied to *motor* vehicles
only. It was apparently a slow afternoon for law-enforcement, and fairly
shortly there was a 'committee meeting' of what seemed to be _most_ of
the cops for that side of town. _Spirited_ discussion regarding what *could*
I be cited for, if they were of a mind to do so. Even 'reckless driving'
turned out to be a 'motor vehicle'(only) offense. Something like 30 minutes
later, with more than a dozen officers 'on scene', including 2 sargents,
and a lieutenant, nobody had been able to find anything that 'fit the crime'.
Note: I'd been 'free to go' since shortly after the 1st additional officer
showed up on the scene, but it the whole thing was _good_ entertainment, so
I stuck around to watch the show. grin



Well, if you were free to go, and you stuck around, why were you going so fast to begin with?

;-)

--
Dan D.
http://www.ameritech.net/users/ddevillers/start.html


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On 24 Aug 2004 19:34:07 GMT, (Veeduber) wrote:


He's trying to track down some tracing paper.

plain paper photocopy it at 100%.
cut and join to get up to size then place face down on your wood and
using a hot dry iron iron the back of the photocopy. the paper may
scorch a little but it will transfer the dry electrostatic toner
perfectly onto what you want to cut.
works perfectly on to plywood and balsa and .....
your photocopy remains readable.

copying the leading edge profile of 20 ribs = 20 photocopies at a
worst case.

Stealth Pilot

(Veeduber) wrote in message ...
Got a call the other night from a total stranger .... He's trying to track down some tracing paper.

http://www.artsupply.com/alvin/tracing.htm
Architects use it by the running yard, at least those of the old
school. Sometimes it's easier to think with a pencil than with a CAD
program when doing preliminary sketches.

Waxed
paper makes great tracing paper but nowadays most folks don't carry those
narrow-lead wax pencils you need to write on the stuff.

Usually referred to these days as "Film pencils" or "Mylar pencils".
Try colored leads for a mechanical pencil. You trace on the less waxy
side.

Truth is, I haven't used real tracing paper since the late 1950's when it was
replaced by frosted acetate and later by frosted Mylar.

Mylar gets a bit spendy, and Acetate is worse. The non-frosted stuff
can be marked with a Sharpie. The frosted stuff (a starch coating
gets put on it) can take pencil or pen.
http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/cat...m?cata_id=4984

Another way to transfer plans is to use Dressmakers Carbon and a
tracing wheel. Transfer directly onto whatever you're going to use,
either for a pattern, a jig, or a part.

I use this stuff for the small planes...

http://www.seetemp.com/order.htm

--
Dan D.
http://www.ameritech.net/users/ddevillers/start.html


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"Ryan Young" wrote in message om...
(Veeduber) wrote in message ...
Got a call the other night from a total stranger .... He's trying to track down some tracing paper.

http://www.artsupply.com/alvin/tracing.htm
Architects use it by the running yard, at least those of the old
school. Sometimes it's easier to think with a pencil than with a CAD
program when doing preliminary sketches.

Waxed
paper makes great tracing paper but nowadays most folks don't carry those
narrow-lead wax pencils you need to write on the stuff.

Usually referred to these days as "Film pencils" or "Mylar pencils".
Try colored leads for a mechanical pencil. You trace on the less waxy
side.

Truth is, I haven't used real tracing paper since the late 1950's when it was
replaced by frosted acetate and later by frosted Mylar.

Mylar gets a bit spendy, and Acetate is worse. The non-frosted stuff
can be marked with a Sharpie. The frosted stuff (a starch coating
gets put on it) can take pencil or pen.
http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/cat...m?cata_id=4984

Another way to transfer plans is to use Dressmakers Carbon and a
tracing wheel. Transfer directly onto whatever you're going to use,
either for a pattern, a jig, or a part.

(Veeduber) wrote in message ...
Got a call the other night from a total stranger who identified himself as a
fellow resident of northern San Diego county and a homebuilder, too, although
he lives up near the Pala Indian reservation which puts him even farther out in
the sticks than me.

He's trying to track down some tracing paper.

I went to the local Michaels craft store and bought a 50 sheet pad of
Strathmore tracing paper (11X14") for about $6. Look in the art
supplies section.

"Joe Maj" wrote in message
om...
(Veeduber) wrote in message
...
Got a call the other night from a total stranger who identified himself
as a
fellow resident of northern San Diego county and a homebuilder, too,
although
he lives up near the Pala Indian reservation which puts him even farther
out in
the sticks than me.

He's trying to track down some tracing paper.

I went to the local Michaels craft store and bought a 50 sheet pad of
Strathmore tracing paper (11X14") for about $6. Look in the art
supplies section.

We used mylar from the art supply stores. While building Murphy Renegades
we traced parts like ribs and gussets onto the mylar, then cut the mylar to
size and shape, then traced the mylar piece directly onto .125" or .063"
aircraft aluminum, or as the case might be. Then over to the band saw, then
to the sanding belt and files for deburring, then to the drill press. Then
to the alodine vats. And so on. If the piece needed bending, we had a
brake for the purpose.