CFI without commercial?

....and why I just quoted the regs

"Bravo8500" wrote in message
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You're only flying for hire if you
charge for your instruction.

Oh no, here we go.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:10:30 -0600, "Jim Burns"
wrote in
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Sorry for just cutting and pasteing the FARs...

Why?

"Jay Honeck" wrote

What are the rules nowadays for getting your CFI? Is a commercial
rating required before you can become a CFI? I imagine it is, since
you're "flying for hire"...?

Come-on Jay, I thought that you were an English Major.
It's a "commercial certificate", not rating, and CFIs
don't "fly for hire", they "instruct for hire". :-)

Bob Moore

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

What are the rules nowadays for getting your CFI? Is a commercial
rating required before you can become a CFI? I imagine it is, since
you're "flying for hire"...?

Come-on Jay, I thought that you were an English Major.
It's a "commercial certificate", not rating, and CFIs
don't "fly for hire", they "instruct for hire". :-)

Bob Moore

True enough , but doesn't "for hire" carry the implication that some actual
money must change hands? :-)))
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired
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(take out the trash :-)

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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True enough , but doesn't "for hire" carry the implication that some
actual money must change hands? :-)))


I think bartering would still be considered for hire. But if I instruct my
son in my own airplane and receive nothing in return but the joy of sharing
something I love with my child it is definitely not "for hire".

You can get paid all you want instructing, and don't even have to have
a medical unless you are acting as PIC, then only a 3rd class. You not
acting as a commercial pilot instructing, even though the regs say you
need it for the exam.

"Bravo8500" wrote in message
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You can get paid all you want instructing,

Now THIS is welcome news!!! :-)))

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired
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"Bravo8500" wrote in message
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You can get paid all you want instructing, and don't even have to have
a medical unless you are acting as PIC, then only a 3rd class. You not
acting as a commercial pilot instructing, even though the regs say you
need it for the exam.


If you're being paid for instructing you're acting as a commercial pilot.

Originally Posted by Bravo8500

You can get paid all you want instructing, and don't even have to have
a medical unless you are acting as PIC, then only a 3rd class. You not
acting as a commercial pilot instructing, even though the regs say you
need it for the exam.

Is it possible to get the CFI without the Commercial ? Some of us instrument rated pilots would like to get a CFI and don't need / intend to charge.
- Richard Nichols, MD
SEL, Instrument Airplane

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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True enough , but doesn't "for hire" carry the implication that some
actual money must change hands? :-)))


I think bartering would still be considered for hire. But if I instruct
my son in my own airplane and receive nothing in return but the joy of
sharing something I love with my child it is definitely not "for hire".

It wasn't meant to be a serious comment Steven :-)
DH