Sounded like a crazy one at JFK last night...

"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
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I was listening too. the Ground controller was a real pro. He was calm,
clear and very patient with all the snafus.

Also, there was a King Air with an emergency on Approach frequencies. He
lost his instruments and was on a no-gyro vectors. Wow, I couldn't imagine
flying in that crap (PIREPs of SEVERE turbulence below 800 ft by...a
B757!)
with full instruments but with partial panel--damn!


I remember hearing him say he had a developing emergency, but I didn't catch
anything else after that. That was about the time he was dealing with that
Iberia A340 that didn't know where he was going, that was a trip.

I picked it up at 6pm EST. METARs from 5pm-6pm last night - no thanks:


KJFK 082251Z 30037G42KT 2SM -SN BLSN FEW007 OVC017 M06/M09 A2917 RMK AO2 PK
WND 31042/2250 SLP877 P0000 T10561094 $
KJFK 082227Z 31025G37KT 1 1/2SM -SN BLSN FEW007 BKN014 OVC027 M06/M08 A2916
RMK AO2 PK WND 31038/2214 P0000 $
KJFK 082215Z 31031G38KT 3/4SM -SN BLSN BKN008 OVC020 M06/M08 A2916 RMK AO2
PK WND 31038/2214 SFC VIS 1 P0000 $

John Kirksey wrote:

I was working late last night and decided to tune into JFK Tower/Ground on
liveatc.net. I don't know what it looked like up that way last night, but it
must have been pretty crappy out.

I'm about 35 miles to the southeast. It started snowing early in the afternoon
with the temperature around freezing. By 8:00, the temperature was around 20
degrees and the snow had pretty much stopped. With that kind of temperature
drop, much of the snow was actually tiny ice crystals. By around 4:00, a crust
had formed on what snow was already on the ground. The wind kept a lot of the
stuff airborne and the gusts would form clouds of snow.

From my kitchen, it was interesting to watch the snow traveling *up* during wind
shifts. When I was out walking the dog around 8:30, visibility went to about 50'
during a few of the gusts.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
...


John Kirksey wrote:

I was working late last night and decided to tune into JFK Tower/Ground
on
liveatc.net. I don't know what it looked like up that way last night,
but it
must have been pretty crappy out.

I'm about 35 miles to the southeast. It started snowing early in the
afternoon
with the temperature around freezing. By 8:00, the temperature was around
20
degrees and the snow had pretty much stopped. With that kind of
temperature
drop, much of the snow was actually tiny ice crystals. By around 4:00, a
crust
had formed on what snow was already on the ground. The wind kept a lot of
the
stuff airborne and the gusts would form clouds of snow.

I think we got it worse up in Boston. In the late afternoon the temperature
dropped about 20 degrees in less than an hour, and the rain we'd been
getting all day froze solid. By 7pm there were 2-3 inches of wet snow on top
of 1/4" of hard ice and of course not a plow or sander in sight. Logan was
shut down for a while.

-cwk.

In article . net,
"Colin W Kingsbury" wrote:


I think we got it worse up in Boston. In the late afternoon the temperature
dropped about 20 degrees in less than an hour, and the rain we'd been
getting all day froze solid. By 7pm there were 2-3 inches of wet snow on top
of 1/4" of hard ice and of course not a plow or sander in sight. Logan was
shut down for a while.

Some recent winds for KBOS (gusts still 30 mph)
02:54 W 31 G 41
01:54 W 31 G 40
00:54 W 30 G 41
23:54 W 33 G 44
22:54 W 28 G 45
21:54 NW 37 G 48
20:54 NW 29 G 44
19:54 NW 31 G 43

--
Bob Noel
looking for a sig the lawyers will like

Bleep that. I was on Storrow Drive at 8pm and it still hadn't seen either a
plow or sander. Snow removal in the city this year has been abominable. So
much for the Great Menino, not that anyone challenges him and lives to tell
the tale these days.

-cwk.

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
"Colin W Kingsbury" wrote:


I think we got it worse up in Boston. In the late afternoon the
temperature
dropped about 20 degrees in less than an hour, and the rain we'd been
getting all day froze solid. By 7pm there were 2-3 inches of wet snow on
top
of 1/4" of hard ice and of course not a plow or sander in sight. Logan
was
shut down for a while.

Some recent winds for KBOS (gusts still 30 mph)
02:54 W 31 G 41
01:54 W 31 G 40
00:54 W 30 G 41
23:54 W 33 G 44
22:54 W 28 G 45
21:54 NW 37 G 48
20:54 NW 29 G 44
19:54 NW 31 G 43

--
Bob Noel
looking for a sig the lawyers will like

"George Patterson" wrote in message
...

....snip...

I'm about 35 miles to the southeast.

....snip...

Of JFK? Isn't that in the ocean?

Joe Johnson wrote:

"George Patterson" wrote in message
...

...snip...

I'm about 35 miles to the southeast.

...snip...

Of JFK? Isn't that in the ocean?

True. Should've been southwest.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.

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John Kirksey wrote:
I was working late last night and decided to tune into JFK Tower/Ground on
liveatc.net. I don't know what it looked like up that way last night, but it
must have been pretty crappy out. In addition to the wind shear - 35 gusting
47, +/20 on final - I tuned in right after an airliner turned off 31L
between taxiways, getting stuck half on and half off the runway. The viz
must have been bad, because the tower couldn't see where the plane was, and,
after sending several planes around (which had to suck, because the line of
landing planes was looooooong...), eventually closed 31L for a time.

I was also "watching" the Passur AirportMonitor for JFK at the time and saw
several bizjets that had their destination as TEB landing at JFK, so either
TEB was closed or they just couldn't make it in there.

You missed the better part of it. 31L/R were only being used at
the time, not just because of the winds, but because the taxiway lights
were also out of service on the 4s/22s. Traffic either had to hold for
ages on end, or divert. It wasn't a fun night then. Search the archives
at liveatc.net for the feed. The guy that runs it is a friend of mine.

BL.
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