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John Harper wrote:
Paul Tomblin wrote: Does anybody have a good handle on when ATC wants you to read back altimeter settings? On a single IFR flight on Tuesday, I encountered several controllers who I'd check in with, and they'd give me an altimeter setting, and that would be it, and 2 (both in Canada, BTW) whom when I didn't read back the altimeter setting gave it to me again. In the US I've never read back an altimeter, I've rarely heard anyone else do it, and I've never heard anyone questioned for it. In the UK it is mandatory and they will prompt you if you don't read it back. I guess Canada operates to the same procedures as the UK. US radio practice is actually quite a bit different from the international norm, as you quickly discover when you try to fly somewhere else! John That's interesting, either flying flight following or IFR I read back altimeter readings and I generally hear most everybody do that. Ross |
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On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:24:31 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote: Does anybody have a good handle on when ATC wants you to read back altimeter settings? On a single IFR flight on Tuesday, I encountered several controllers who I'd check in with, and they'd give me an altimeter setting, and that would be it, and 2 (both in Canada, BTW) whom when I didn't read back the altimeter setting gave it to me again. I automatically read back the altimeter setting when ever given, whether IFR or VFR. Any time I've forgotten to include it in the read back they have given it to me again. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Peter R. wrote:
John wrote: In the US I've never read back an altimeter, I've rarely heard anyone else do it, and I've never heard anyone questioned for it. No offense, John, (seriously) but do you currently fly so many hours in so many parts of the US that you can make that broad of a statement? I can certainly make that statement with absolute authority. Read it again, carefully. I speak only about my own experience. I don't claim to speak for what goes on in the rest of the US, or for the 99.99% of the time I don't spend flying. For all I know there's some weird conspiracy that everyone reads back altimeter settings religiously unless I happen to be on the frequency. But it still doesn't affect the validity of what I wrote. John I only fly about 5-7 hours per week, but in the busy Northeast US airspace I *always* hear pilots, both GA and airline, read back altimeter settings. Additionally, I have heard quite a few exchanges where a controller has corrected an incorrect altimeter setting readback. Personally, I always read back any number given to me by ATC if for no other reason than to aid my own memory. |
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So maybe there really is a geographic aspect to this. It's
true that my instructor taught me to minimize chit chat, and I do. But really, honestly, in Northern CA where I do most of my flying I rarely hear them read back, and never do it myself, and it never seems to cause a problem. Or maybe I just filter it out when other people do it, I don't know. (Things that used to drive my instructor mad: "identing" - "they can see it on the screen, you don't need to tell them" "taxiing into position" - "how else are you going to do it" etc.....) John I automatically read back the altimeter setting when ever given, whether IFR or VFR. Any time I've forgotten to include it in the read back they have given it to me again. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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"Michael 182" wrote: In the US I've never read back an altimeter, I've rarely heard anyone else do it, and I've never heard anyone questioned for it. Really - I hear about 9 of 10 altimeters read back every time I fly. Ditto. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Paul Tomblin wrote:
Does anybody have a good handle on when ATC wants you to read back altimeter settings? On a single IFR flight on Tuesday, I encountered several controllers who I'd check in with, and they'd give me an altimeter setting, and that would be it, and 2 (both in Canada, BTW) whom when I didn't read back the altimeter setting gave it to me again. I always read it back. Matt |
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Paul kgyy wrote:
They want to know that you hear them. Sometimes I've just replied "roger, 27D" but it's not much more of a deal to say "2994, 27D" which I guess is what I will do from now on. And you can drop the 2 to be even shorter. I generally just give the last three digits as the first is obvious from the last three ... at least at any altitude I'll ever fly at! :-) Matt |
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John Harper wrote:
Paul Tomblin wrote: Does anybody have a good handle on when ATC wants you to read back altimeter settings? On a single IFR flight on Tuesday, I encountered several controllers who I'd check in with, and they'd give me an altimeter setting, and that would be it, and 2 (both in Canada, BTW) whom when I didn't read back the altimeter setting gave it to me again. In the US I've never read back an altimeter, I've rarely heard anyone else do it, and I've never heard anyone questioned for it. Interesting as I've experienced just the opposite flying in the northeast. I'd say almost all of the time they are read back. Matt |
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John Harper wrote:
Peter R. wrote: John wrote: In the US I've never read back an altimeter, I've rarely heard anyone else do it, and I've never heard anyone questioned for it. No offense, John, (seriously) but do you currently fly so many hours in so many parts of the US that you can make that broad of a statement? I can certainly make that statement with absolute authority. Read it again, carefully. I speak only about my own experience. I don't claim to speak for what goes on in the rest of the US, or for the 99.99% of the time I don't spend flying. For all I know there's some weird conspiracy that everyone reads back altimeter settings religiously unless I happen to be on the frequency. But it still doesn't affect the validity of what I wrote. It does question the effectiveness of your hearing aids though. :-) Matt |
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Dan Luke Apr 7, 3:26 pm show options
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting From: "Dan Luke" - Find messages by this author Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:26:16 -0500 Local: Thurs, Apr 7 2005 3:26 pm Subject: Reading back altimeter settings? Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse "Michael 182" wrote: In the US I've never read back an altimeter, I've rarely heard anyone else do it, and I've never heard anyone questioned for it. Really - I hear about 9 of 10 altimeters read back every time I fly. Ditto. ************************************ Well, of course. The proper procedure is to read back the altimeter setting. VFR or IFR. |
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