Parajumper breaks legs???

LCT Paintball wrote:

When you say spin, do you mean a controlled radial decent, or an
O-Crap I'm
in a spin?

Generally speaking, when you do a spin on purpose, you leave out the
"Oh crap" part.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

http://www.local6.com/firstnews/4410256/detail.html

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
http://www.local6.com/firstnews/4410256/detail.html

Many thanks for all the replies...Jerry


ps I, too, thought a spin is a spin, is a spin---(except inverted)

As a past sky diver driver, I used to dump them at 7200 out of a Cessna 182,
and touch down the same time they did. The process I used was to first
close the cowl flaps, close the throttle to 15" of mp.and roll into a steep
bank. I didn't spin but I did have a tight spiral and typically saw the VSI
go to numbers like 8,000fpm.
I agree it does sound like the plane ran into the jumper. We used to have a
BT-13 pilot that loved to split S after the jumpers left the back seat and
then when the guys got their chutes open, he would buzz just over the top of
your canopy. It gave me a good dose of adrenalin the first time he did it
to me.
S. Fields
"Nick Funk" wrote in message
...
I have seen jump planes beat the sky diver down. Many times I have seen
the pilot put a plane (Cessna) into a spin from 10,000 to 12,000 feet
and pull at about 1500 feet, usually near the downwind leg of the
pattern. Many times the plane is on the runway before the sky diver
touches down.



jerry wass wrote:
How did the jumper jump outa that plane, travel upward & forward & break
his legs on the L.E. of the wing outboard the engine nacele ???
'twas on the OK news last nite, but didn't catch where it happened..

Stuart Fields wrote:
As a past sky diver driver, I used to dump them at 7200 out of a Cessna 182,
and touch down the same time they did. The process I used was to first
close the cowl flaps, close the throttle to 15" of mp.and roll into a steep
bank. I didn't spin but I did have a tight spiral and typically saw the VSI
go to numbers like 8,000fpm.

You had a VSI in a 182 that read up to 8000?

Rich Ahrens :

Stuart Fields wrote:
As a past sky diver driver, I used to dump them at 7200 out of a
Cessna 182, and touch down the same time they did. The process I
used was to first close the cowl flaps, close the throttle to 15" of
mp.and roll into a steep bank. I didn't spin but I did have a tight
spiral and typically saw the VSI go to numbers like 8,000fpm.

You had a VSI in a 182 that read up to 8000?


Must be a 182 SP

No as I recall it read to 6,000 but I remember winding the thing up past the
6 more than once.

--
Kathy Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

www.vkss.com
www.experimentalhelo.com


"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
...
Stuart Fields wrote:
As a past sky diver driver, I used to dump them at 7200 out of a Cessna
182,
and touch down the same time they did. The process I used was to first
close the cowl flaps, close the throttle to 15" of mp.and roll into a
steep
bank. I didn't spin but I did have a tight spiral and typically saw the
VSI
go to numbers like 8,000fpm.

You had a VSI in a 182 that read up to 8000?

Stuart Fields wrote:
As a past sky diver driver, I used to dump them at 7200 out of a Cessna 182,
and touch down the same time they did. The process I used was to first
close the cowl flaps, close the throttle to 15" of mp.and roll into a steep
bank. I didn't spin but I did have a tight spiral and typically saw the VSI
go to numbers like 8,000fpm.
I agree it does sound like the plane ran into the jumper. We used to have a
BT-13 pilot that loved to split S after the jumpers left the back seat and
then when the guys got their chutes open, he would buzz just over the top of
your canopy. It gave me a good dose of adrenalin the first time he did it
to me.

I think I'd give that pilot a good dose of adrenalin when I stuffed my
..44 mag under his nose after a stunt like that...


Matt

Matt: I found out later that one of the other jumpers had walked up the
wing along side the fuselage before he jumed, and dropped a bag over the
pilot's head. The pilot thought it was me and proceeded to get even. This
was definitely back in the looser and crazier days.

--
Stuart Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

www.vkss.com
www.experimentalhelo.com


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Stuart Fields wrote:
As a past sky diver driver, I used to dump them at 7200 out of a Cessna
182,
and touch down the same time they did. The process I used was to first
close the cowl flaps, close the throttle to 15" of mp.and roll into a
steep
bank. I didn't spin but I did have a tight spiral and typically saw the
VSI
go to numbers like 8,000fpm.
I agree it does sound like the plane ran into the jumper. We used to
have a
BT-13 pilot that loved to split S after the jumpers left the back seat
and
then when the guys got their chutes open, he would buzz just over the
top of
your canopy. It gave me a good dose of adrenalin the first time he did
it
to me.

I think I'd give that pilot a good dose of adrenalin when I stuffed my
.44 mag under his nose after a stunt like that...


Matt

"Nick Funk" wrote in message
...
I have seen jump planes beat the sky diver down.

[snip]

Many times the plane is on the runway before the sky diver touches down.

OK, lets explain this a little more to this non pilot and non jumper. Seems
to me that logic dictates that if the divers are all trying to land at the
airport, why would the jump plane try to get there around that same time?

How long does it take for the divers to reach ground? 2 minutes? 4 minutes?
Surely not much more than that. Why would the plane not descend at a pace
to place them in the pattern after the jumpers had cleared the area? Does
the 3-5 minutes flying time the plane saves by trying to beat the jumpers
seem significant?

I would appreciate any responders remembering that I am not a pilot, nor a
jumper. Answers with some supporting details would be appreciated.

Thanks,
GWK