Off topic, Gore and the internet (don't read if not interested)

Rob Cherney wrote:
On 2 Jun 2005 11:45:32 -0700, "Sport Pilot" wrote:

Show me be bills Gore supposedly wrote! It says "Gore secured the
passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
1991."

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d102:SN00272:|TOM:/bss/d102query.html|

Enjoy the reading.


Rob-
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Reading the bill only proves my point. This is not about the internet,
this is only about computer and network use in the government. In 1991
the internet was in commercial use, without Gore's help.

Morgans wrote:


How cool is that? Very, because anyone that wishes to ignore off topic
posts can filter by using OT as the key word.

Nonsense.

No filter rule will do that using the interface through which
I read and post. I see no reason why I should use inferior software
to mitigate someone else's decision to abrogate netiiquette.

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FF

wrote)
No filter rule will do that using the interface through which
I read and post. I see no reason why I should use inferior software
to mitigate someone else's decision to abrogate netiiquette.


"...mitigate someone else's decision to abrogate netiiquette." - I liked
this g.

What's that grammer term when phrasing rolls off the tounge? Dances on the
ear?


(OT thread)
I've got a number of (inferior) options :-)

Skim each posts quickly.
Don't read the thread when I see it.
Filter the thread.
Killfile the posters - I let them out of jail after about a month
Open first post and click Mark Conversation as Read g
Let the boys blow off some steam, and simply walk around?
I'm sure there's more ....

Sometimes (???), with hangar flying, people adopt a Terrier-on-a-pant-cuff
sensibility with their postings. I figure oh well, and head off to read why
turbines won't work with PPC trikes, instead.

(My newsreader)
I use M$ IE OE 6.0 for newsgroups. I delete all posts a couple of times per
day. I like 30 fresh posts to read, then they're gone. I do not like 200,
300, 400, 500 posts in my preview window. Too overwhelming - even if I've
read half of them.

(Newsgroup/Properties/Local File/Delete) I'll go to Google/Groups if I need
to pull something deleted back up.


Montblack

On 3 Jun 2005 10:26:36 -0700, "Sport Pilot" wrote:

Reading the bill only proves my point. This is not about the internet,
this is only about computer and network use in the government.

Not exactly. While the bill was geared toward a research and
education network, there were specific requirements regarding
commercialization.

In 1991 the internet was in commercial use, without Gore's help.

True enough.

But on the other hand, Gore can be credited with giving the technology
the visibility in Congress that it deserved--right at the point in
time where there was critical mass. We won't ever know fast or slow
the technolgoy would have developed without his efforts.

To quote a former high-profile senator who was there at the time:

"In all fairness, it's something Gore had worked on a long time. Gore
is not the father of the Internet, but in all fairness Gore is the
person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure
that we got to an Internet. And the truth is--and I worked with him
starting in 1978 when I got there--we were both part of a 'futures
group.' The fact is, in the Clinton administration the world we had
talked about in the '80s began to actually happen. You can see it in
your own life, between the Internet, the computer, the cellphone."

That senator was Newt Gingrich.

That's it for me and this subject. I need to get back to refinishing
a prop.

Rob-
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Rob Cherney wrote:
...
That senator was Newt Gingrich.


Great story but Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House.

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FF

Great story but Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House

Well, sort of. He had already retired from his post as Speaker at the
time of the 1 September 2000 CSPAN broadcast of an American Political
Science Association colloquium where he delivered these remarks:

: In all fairness, it's something Gore had worked
: on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the
: Internet, but in all fairness Gore is the person
: who, in the Congress, most systematically
: worked to make sure that we got to an Internet.

"T o d d P a t t i s t" wrote

No one should have to filter out off topic posts. They are
supposed to be filtered out by the usenet charter for the
group.

OK, now get back to reality.

T o d d P a t t i s t
:

Jerry Springer wrote:

Give it up, there is not a non moderated newsgroup out there that
does not have OT content.

Agreed, and I'd never have posted if the thread hadn't been
so blatantly labeled as being noncompliant

You with your arguing about it contribute
to it just like any other post.

No, its on-topic to discuss the rules of the newsgroup.

Where does the charter say if someone
posts OT content someone else should jump in and argue with the people
posting OT content? :-)

It doesn't. It says what subject matter is allowed. ISP's
are required to use terms of service that require their
members to comply with the charter.


, no they aren't..

Anyone unhappy with
consistent repeated violations of the TOS can complain and
the ISP should then act.

Try komplaining to mine, sunshine...


Bertie

On 3 Jun 2005 18:51:56 -0700, wrote:

Great story but Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House.

Thanks for keeping me honest. I should have known that and I stand
corrected.

Rob-
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T o d d P a t t i s t
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


It doesn't. It says what subject matter is allowed. ISP's
are required to use terms of service that require their
members to comply with the charter.


, no they aren't..

If they don't, and the members from that ISP repeatedly
violate the charters of usenet, then access to the group is
cut off.


Nope.


Try komplaining to mine, sunshine...

I have no plan to do so. This is a gentle reminder, even if
you plan to ignore your responsibilities.

My responsibility is to behave ccording to the user's agreement of my
provider.

Period.


Bertie