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Old June 20th 05, 07:12 PM
tom pettit
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Nah, it's more like this, "Here, hold my beer, and watch this!"

tom

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The last words of many a redneck pilot are "Hey, y'all, watch THIS."

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Old June 20th 05, 10:52 PM
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"RST Engineering" wrote in message
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The last words of many a redneck pilot are "Hey, y'all, watch THIS."

Jim


Usually followed by the need to go one up which is preceeded by:

"Hell, that ain't nuthin'..."

Jay B


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Old June 20th 05, 08:15 AM
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Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?


By "level" I assume you mean no longer losing altitude. There are lots of
videos on the web of people mushing into the ground at the bottom of a loop.
The nose is often pointed up ( a bit). But they're well stalled and still
descending. You can stall at any speed. (Up until the point where you tear
the wings off.)

moo


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Old June 20th 05, 02:36 PM
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Happy Dog wrote:

"Stubby" wrote in message
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Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?



By "level" I assume you mean no longer losing altitude. There are lots of
videos on the web of people mushing into the ground at the bottom of a loop.
The nose is often pointed up ( a bit). But they're well stalled and still
descending. You can stall at any speed. (Up until the point where you tear
the wings off.)


Thanks. That is exactly what I wanted to know. Many pilots tell me
things like, "You can't stall when you're going fast." They're wrong!
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Old June 20th 05, 02:52 PM
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Stubby wrote:

Thanks. That is exactly what I wanted to know. Many pilots tell me
things like, "You can't stall when you're going fast." They're wrong!


Speed has nothing whatsoever to do with stalling. What makes you stall
below the stall speed is that you are continuing to increase the AOA
trying to maintain level flight.
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Old June 21st 05, 09:37 AM
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Stubby wrote:

Happy Dog wrote:

"Stubby" wrote in message
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Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?



By "level" I assume you mean no longer losing altitude. There are lots
of videos on the web of people mushing into the ground at the bottom of a
loop.
The nose is often pointed up ( a bit). But they're well stalled and
still
descending. You can stall at any speed. (Up until the point where you
tear the wings off.)


Thanks. That is exactly what I wanted to know. Many pilots tell me
things like, "You can't stall when you're going fast." They're wrong!


And here's one the really cook your noodle: at zero-G a wing wont stall.
Think about it.

James
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donnerjack Nothing says "I enjoy living with you" like the gift of
3rd degree burns...
Mephron except, of course, turning his bed into a trebuchet.
Ladegard That much effort must mean some sort of affection.

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Old June 20th 05, 02:14 PM
Dave S
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Yes.

Stubby wrote:
Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?


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Old June 20th 05, 05:06 PM
Robert M. Gary
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Yea, but who cares. Stalls are nothing once you've done aerobatics.

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Old June 21st 05, 03:33 AM
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Stubby wrote:
Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?


One can most easily burble the wings across the top of a loop by
holding a touch too much pressure... it happens all the time. What
takes real skill is stalling it over and over and over again all the
way around. :-)

My Decathlon-calibrated arm automatically pulls the right amount of
pressure to loop the airplane. When it encountered a loop in an Extra
300 for the first time, it was still giving Decathlon-scale tugs to an
airplane that really didn't want or need all that much help. I must
have stalled it about 8 or 10 times going around that first loop. I
was working and sweating and grunting and wondering what in the
slam-hell was going on while the GIB was laughing at me so hard he
almost cried.

She stalled going straight up and going straight down, going fast and
going slowly, and every possible combination thereof.

The only saving grace to such a miserable performance? If I could just
repeat it exactly a few more times, I can name it!

-Dave Russell
N2S-3

 




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