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Your free AvGas fillup at Dodge Center MN (TOB) July Sunday 31, AM



 
 
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Old August 1st 05, 02:57 AM
Aluckyguess
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It was unauthorized the guy stole the gas. He should get credited back.
Pretty simple really. Cancel the card if they disagree.
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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It only takes one time to learn . I would contact the credit card
company and see what they can do. If they consider it an "authorized
charge" then you'll get your credit. Not sure how they will look at it
though.

-Robert



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Old August 1st 05, 01:52 PM
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It was unauthorized the guy stole the gas. He should get credited back.

Well, yes and no.

He authorized a purchase of up to "x" amount at the pump. He then filled
his plane to "y" amount, leaving the remainder of "x" as an authorized
purchase. The next guy used up his authorized purchase, if I'm following
this thread correctly.

No credit card company is going to be able to discern the difference between
what he did, and what he *meant* to do. He goofed, and someone filled up
using his remaining credit. They may not even realize it, yet.

Worse yet, if the credit card company DOES credit him back, they will charge
back the merchant automatically. Then the FBO is out the money, which
helps no one.

Credit card companies cannot (and will not) ever lose. They represent the
worst in our economy, ranking right behind insurance and liability issues as
one of the three biggest detriments to economic growth.

IMHO, of course!

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Old August 1st 05, 03:15 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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It was unauthorized the guy stole the gas. He should get credited back.



Credit card companies cannot (and will not) ever lose. They represent

the
worst in our economy, ranking right behind insurance and liability issues

as
one of the three biggest detriments to economic growth.


They are middlemen between the customer and the merchant and not really a
party to the transaction, merely a facilitator. Why should they be liable
unless they screwed it up somehow?

The fellow in this case failed to closed the pump. In the same way if he
left his wallet full of cash around, he was grossly negligent.

Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?


IMHO, of course!


I gotta opinion 'fer ya right here!!



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Old August 1st 05, 03:47 PM
Allen
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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The fellow in this case failed to closed the pump. In the same way if he
left his wallet full of cash around, he was grossly negligent.

Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?


IMHO, of course!


I gotta opinion 'fer ya right here!!


You are right but there were two wrongs here. Failure to properly end the
transaction was the first one. The second was the person who took advantage
of the situation to make off with the "free" gas. That was like finding the
wallet full of cash and not trying to return it intact to it's rightful
owner. Responsibility and morality are on the decline everywhere you look.

IMHO

Allen


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Old August 1st 05, 05:04 PM
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Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?


Hey Jay, I didn't start this thread to blame anybody. Just posted it
requesting the guy to contact me to straighten this out. There are some
honest people. Some will even return a wallet full of money to the
owner. Is honesty passe in America?

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Old August 1st 05, 01:49 AM
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FWIW - On most "do it yourself" gas pumps at the airfields I have flown
into asks a series of questions with the first being "have you ground
your aircraft," Followed usually by N number then amount to be debited
to card. I usually enter an amount that is roughly $10 to $20 over
what I think I need (adjusting of course for price flucuations). Once
this is done the most I could lose would be $10 or $20 bucks. the pump
will automatically shut off at the higher limit.
What was the upper limit you expected to reach?

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Old August 1st 05, 02:39 AM
abripl
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.... the pump will automatically shut off at the higher limit (entered)

Thats interesting. Just prior to that I filled up at a pump with an
upper limit (I entered 20 gallons and it filled with 10 gallons). But
this one did not ask anything...
Today was my first time I used self serve...

The reason I posted was just in case.... There are some honest
people.....

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Old August 1st 05, 04:24 AM
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abripl wrote:

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly.


I expect that you are assuming this is the cause of the bill. Write your credit
card company (call if you like, but you still have to write). Tell them that you
charged $50 on your card for fuel and the FBO billed you for $200. Contest the
charge.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
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Old August 4th 05, 03:22 AM
John
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abripl wrote:

Hi,

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me
continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about
$50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that
accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see
corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card
charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660


Now that's been a few days, has the charge amount POSTED to your credit
card account? Is it an even number like $200 or is it a more realistic
number like $197.34 ?

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Old August 4th 05, 04:50 AM
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"John" wrote in message ...
abripl wrote:

Hi,

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me
continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about
$50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that
accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see
corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card
charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660


Now that's been a few days, has the charge amount POSTED to your credit
card account? Is it an even number like $200 or is it a more realistic
number like $197.34 ?


Question is: How did he know, as soon as he did (a matter of hours), that
someone pumped gas on his card?



 




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