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It was unauthorized the guy stole the gas. He should get credited back.
Pretty simple really. Cancel the card if they disagree. "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... It only takes one time to learn ![]() company and see what they can do. If they consider it an "authorized charge" then you'll get your credit. Not sure how they will look at it though. -Robert |
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It was unauthorized the guy stole the gas. He should get credited back.
Well, yes and no. He authorized a purchase of up to "x" amount at the pump. He then filled his plane to "y" amount, leaving the remainder of "x" as an authorized purchase. The next guy used up his authorized purchase, if I'm following this thread correctly. No credit card company is going to be able to discern the difference between what he did, and what he *meant* to do. He goofed, and someone filled up using his remaining credit. They may not even realize it, yet. Worse yet, if the credit card company DOES credit him back, they will charge back the merchant automatically. Then the FBO is out the money, which helps no one. Credit card companies cannot (and will not) ever lose. They represent the worst in our economy, ranking right behind insurance and liability issues as one of the three biggest detriments to economic growth. IMHO, of course! :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news ![]() It was unauthorized the guy stole the gas. He should get credited back. Credit card companies cannot (and will not) ever lose. They represent the worst in our economy, ranking right behind insurance and liability issues as one of the three biggest detriments to economic growth. They are middlemen between the customer and the merchant and not really a party to the transaction, merely a facilitator. Why should they be liable unless they screwed it up somehow? The fellow in this case failed to closed the pump. In the same way if he left his wallet full of cash around, he was grossly negligent. Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for his actions. Or it that passe in America anymore? IMHO, of course! I gotta opinion 'fer ya right here!! |
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![]() "Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... The fellow in this case failed to closed the pump. In the same way if he left his wallet full of cash around, he was grossly negligent. Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for his actions. Or it that passe in America anymore? IMHO, of course! I gotta opinion 'fer ya right here!! You are right but there were two wrongs here. Failure to properly end the transaction was the first one. The second was the person who took advantage of the situation to make off with the "free" gas. That was like finding the wallet full of cash and not trying to return it intact to it's rightful owner. Responsibility and morality are on the decline everywhere you look. IMHO Allen |
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Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore? Hey Jay, I didn't start this thread to blame anybody. Just posted it requesting the guy to contact me to straighten this out. There are some honest people. Some will even return a wallet full of money to the owner. Is honesty passe in America? |
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FWIW - On most "do it yourself" gas pumps at the airfields I have flown
into asks a series of questions with the first being "have you ground your aircraft," Followed usually by N number then amount to be debited to card. I usually enter an amount that is roughly $10 to $20 over what I think I need (adjusting of course for price flucuations). Once this is done the most I could lose would be $10 or $20 bucks. the pump will automatically shut off at the higher limit. What was the upper limit you expected to reach? |
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.... the pump will automatically shut off at the higher limit (entered)
Thats interesting. Just prior to that I filled up at a pump with an upper limit (I entered 20 gallons and it filled with 10 gallons). But this one did not ask anything... Today was my first time I used self serve... The reason I posted was just in case.... There are some honest people..... |
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abripl wrote:
Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. I expect that you are assuming this is the cause of the bill. Write your credit card company (call if you like, but you still have to write). Tell them that you charged $50 on your card for fuel and the FBO billed you for $200. Contest the charge. George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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abripl wrote:
Hi, Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about $50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660 Now that's been a few days, has the charge amount POSTED to your credit card account? Is it an even number like $200 or is it a more realistic number like $197.34 ? |
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![]() "John" wrote in message ... abripl wrote: Hi, Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about $50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660 Now that's been a few days, has the charge amount POSTED to your credit card account? Is it an even number like $200 or is it a more realistic number like $197.34 ? Question is: How did he know, as soon as he did (a matter of hours), that someone pumped gas on his card? |
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