UK planning to evict N-registered aircraft

Peter wrote:
The UK Department for Transport has published a consultation document;
their aim is as stated above.

What's the stated logic behind this?

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

The UK Department for Transport has published a consultation document;
their aim is as stated above.

What's the stated logic behind this?


http://tinyurl.com/ar229 for all the documents at the DFT website. I've not
had time to read them, so if someone beats me to it for a summary!

D.

David Wright wrote:
The UK Department for Transport has published a consultation document;
their aim is as stated above.

What's the stated logic behind this?


http://tinyurl.com/ar229 for all the documents at the DFT website. I've not
had time to read them, so if someone beats me to it for a summary!

D.

The logic is that they are looking at stopping the practice of
permanently basing an aircraft in the UK but keeping the ownership and
regisration in some other country. According to the documents, they are
looking at the fact that something on the order of 21% of the aircraft
in the UK spend all of their time in UK airspace despite being foreign
registered.

The gist of it is that they want to place a time limit on how long you
can keep a foreign registered aircraft in the UK without changing the
regisration. It's only a proposal for now and they are requestion
comments until late October.

Craig C.

George Patterson a écrit :
Peter wrote:
The UK Department for Transport has published a consultation document;
their aim is as stated above.

What's the stated logic behind this?

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

If I was a U.K citizen I would fight this one real hard and try to stop
it NOW.

We have seen this happen in France (and with luck fail!). IMHO mainly
motivated by bureaucrats wanting to avoid having pilots using their FAA
licence to fly in France.

20 years ago it was not a problem at all for a french citizen to go to
the U.S, pass his pilot exams and come back to fly F- registered
aircraft after a single stop to the local DGAC office.....I've done it.

Not anymore unless you are a U.S resident!
This having nothing to do with safety issues, to the contrary but
simply to atempt to *HELP* french flight schools who, at that time, saw
many students go West.

Today if you reside in the US (or outside of the E.U) - You come to
France with a US licence, you can fly F registered aircraft without a
single hour of flight instruction! (altough I would highly recommend it
in regards to *MAJOR* diffrences such as flight levels, barometrics
pressures in MB, and phraseology over the Com).

But if you are a French citizen and reside in the E.U, your 'in for
taking all of the French written exams and flight tests if you want to
fly F-registered aircraft.

The solution is to find "N" registered aircraft, with greater and
greater numbers, so one can use, regardless of nationality or place of
residence, is F.A.A licence will all ratings.

As mentionned in this forum this is just about the only way private
pilots can fly I.F.R in France....a private IFR licence has been talked
about for years....to no avail. The *REAL IFR* ticket is not really in
reach of the "standard" business / family / adult pilot unless he has
20K¤, a year and brain cells to spare on totally irelevant material to
the private IR pilot.

IMHO G.A in Europe is nearly dead and I personnally rather go to the
U.S twice a year for some real flying / travelling, spending my money
with people who respect G.A.

Best of luck in the U.K.

Olivier Demacon wrote:

Today if you reside in the US (or outside of the E.U) - You come to
France with a US licence, you can fly F registered aircraft without a
single hour of flight instruction!
...
But if you are a French citizen and reside in the E.U, your 'in for
taking all of the French written exams and flight tests if you want to
fly F-registered aircraft.

what about a French citizen who is a US resident?

--Sylvain

Sylvain a écrit :
Olivier Demacon wrote:

Today if you reside in the US (or outside of the E.U) - You come to France
with a US licence, you can fly F registered aircraft without a single hour
of flight instruction!
...
But if you are a French citizen and reside in the E.U, your 'in for taking
all of the French written exams and flight tests if you want to fly
F-registered aircraft.

what about a French citizen who is a US resident?

--Sylvain

No problem at all. This was done to stop French residing citizen to go
to the US, get there licence and fly in France. But if you reside
outside the US (since France cannot go against ICAO agreement!) you can
get your US licence validated in order to fly F registered aircrafts.

Olivier