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Old August 25th 05, 07:43 AM
Montblack
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("Jack Allison" wrote)
Hehe, imagine the guy in Blazing Saddles wheel pants? We don't need
no stinking wheel pants! Wheels go up and down, no pants required.
Then again, I do have to remove the hubcaps to air up the mains...but
that's beside the point :-)



http://www.afi.com/tvevents/100years/quotes.aspx
#36 ...The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)

Blazing Saddles (1974) version was funnier :-)


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Old August 28th 05, 06:50 AM
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On 24-Aug-2005, Jack Allison wrote:

Then again, I do have to remove the hubcaps to air up the mains...but
that's beside the point.



We've got the LoPresti hubcaps on our Arrow IV. They have little doors that
open to expose the valve stem. Works very well.

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Old August 25th 05, 09:35 PM
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At annual I started to let my A&P/IA groove a small arc on the bottom
of the fairing (I have no door). This would be done with a router I
guess and would make access to the nipple a lot easier.
Wish I had done it before my once a month inflation fun last night. )
Mayeb I'll go back and let him do it this weekend.


Trip


In article , says...

Hey, at least you had help!
I would have roll the cherokee up a couple inches then take a look at
each tire to see if I can see the nipple through the damn little door on
our 1986 Cherokee 180. Then you have to do finger acrobats trying to
get the air hose connected to the nipple.

Those wheel pants on the cherokee are a love/hate relationship. You get
a little extra speed and they look better than no pants. But then
airing up the tires are a pain. And how many people have landed in a
muddy grassy strip and have the pants get clogged up causing the tires
to lock up.

As for the air leak. I think it is through osmosis. We only have to air
up the tires maybe a couple of time a year.

Jay, how about solid rubber tire! Of course you have to grease every
landing.

Nick
PA28-180 'D'



Jay Honeck wrote:

One of our least favorite jobs (thanks to our "Fancy Pants" with their
stupid, under-sized access doors) is airing up the tires on our Pathfinder.

I pull the plane back and forth while Mary fishes around for the stupid
nipple. If you want to hear a woman cuss like a sailor, just stop by the
hangar on tire-filling day!

It seems like we're having to fill the tires way too often. At least every
3 - 4 weeks, we notice that the plane has become a real bear to pull out of
the hangar, and that our take-off roll has become noticeably longer. Sure
enough, the tires will be down around 25%, from 40 to 30 lbs on the mains,
and from 30 to 23 lbs (or so) in the nosewheel.

This seems ridiculous. Is it a product of tubed tires, or do I have slow
leaks that should be fixed? Can you use "Fix-a-Flat" in aircraft tires?
(I'll bet not.)

How often do you guys have to fill your tires?


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Old August 25th 05, 01:20 AM
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Jay Honeck wrote:
One of our least favorite jobs (thanks to our "Fancy Pants" with their
stupid, under-sized access doors) is airing up the tires on our Pathfinder.

I pull the plane back and forth while Mary fishes around for the stupid
nipple. If you want to hear a woman cuss like a sailor, just stop by the
hangar on tire-filling day!

It seems like we're having to fill the tires way too often. At least every
3 - 4 weeks, we notice that the plane has become a real bear to pull out of
the hangar, and that our take-off roll has become noticeably longer. Sure
enough, the tires will be down around 25%, from 40 to 30 lbs on the mains,
and from 30 to 23 lbs (or so) in the nosewheel.

This seems ridiculous. Is it a product of tubed tires, or do I have slow
leaks that should be fixed? Can you use "Fix-a-Flat" in aircraft tires?
(I'll bet not.)

How often do you guys have to fill your tires?


Our 150 (since sold) had the standard tubes, and we found ourselves
filling them so often that we put a foot pump in the back of the airplane.

As for the 172, we've been using the generic brand of the Michelin Air
Stop for years and have found it necessary to fill only once every 2
months or so. We just replaced the tires and tubes on the 172, and
because they worked well we bought another set of the very same tubes.
So far, so good.

If you'd like to see the replacement process in detail, go to my site
and browse to:

Aviation-Articles-Maintenance-Tire Replacement

-Doug

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Old August 25th 05, 05:49 AM
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If Mary has to fish around for the nipple, I'd suggest that perhaps a
marriage counselor might be an appropriate expenditure.

{;-)


Jim


I pull the plane back and forth while Mary fishes around for the stupid
nipple.



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Old August 25th 05, 08:00 AM
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("RST Engineering" wrote)
If Mary has to fish around for the nipple, I'd suggest that perhaps a
marriage counselor might be an appropriate expenditure.


I pull the plane back and forth while Mary fishes around for the stupid
nipple.



Any decent "relationship" counselor would have 4 separate notations on just
that one line. g


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Old August 25th 05, 03:00 PM
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If Mary has to fish around for the nipple, I'd suggest that perhaps a
marriage counselor might be an appropriate expenditure.


I pull the plane back and forth while Mary fishes around for the stupid
nipple.



Any decent "relationship" counselor would have 4 separate notations on
just that one line. g


I KNEW I could count on you guys to take that line out of context! I just
KNEW it!

:-)
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Old August 25th 05, 10:07 PM
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RST Engineering wrote:
If Mary has to fish around for the nipple, I'd suggest that perhaps a
marriage counselor might be an appropriate expenditure.

{;-)


More like a plastic surgeon.
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Old August 25th 05, 03:36 AM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Can you use "Fix-a-Flat" in aircraft tires?


Nope. When I bought my Maule, it had McCreary tires & tubes. I had to pump them
up before every other flight. I asked my A&P this same question.

How often do you guys have to fill your tires?


The last tires I put on the Maule were Condors. I don't remember for sure, but
the tubes might have been Michelin (they were certainly not McCreary). The mains
would take 4 months or so to lose 5 pounds. Full pressure was only 26 pounds,
though.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
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Old August 25th 05, 07:38 PM
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If that's not enough reason: most (if not all) fix a flat's use Butane
as a propelant and inflator. It's not as stable as air and is flamable.
Also, if you don't get the tire spinning immediately and keep it
spinning for a while it won't be anywhere close to in balance. It's
better than having a flat, but it is a temporary fix at best. Also, if
you use one, warn the tire person when you get it changed or fixed.
Sometimes they smoke...

John

 




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