A title problem, but I want to buy. How handle?

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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The FAA does not keep title for aircraft. They only register them. Are
you just saying the current owner never changed the registration or are
you saying that someone has a lean against the plane?
An aircraft registration is NOT the same thing as a certified title of
a car from DMV. The FAA does not establish ownership (and it says so
quite clearly on the reg app).

-Robert

Yes, it does. By refusing to process a registration that does not meet their
requirements, they are essentially doing the same thing.

I believe if you have the sequential original BOS's to establish the chain
to the last owner that you can file them all together along with the one
transfering
legal ownership to you. Sounds like it just hasn't been reregistered each
time.
Have you visited with your local FSDO?


"Michael Horowitz" wrote in message
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"OtisWinslow" wrote:

What specific title problem is it?


The FAA Registry shows ownership in the name of the person who owned
it three 'generations' ago. We believe we have a collection of Bills
of Sale, but no one told the FAA. - Mike

AOPA no longer does escrow. They do have a service where they
will provide you with all the records on it though: accident/incident,
airworthiness history, registration history, lien search. It's $95 if
I remember correctly. I've used it each time I've bought a plane.



"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Why not just use the AOPA escrow service instead. Seems a lot cheaper
than using an attorney.

There is no "title" as such. FAA maintains a recording of filed
documents that establish the chain of ownership and they maintain
registration records.



What title?

This I know. Their 'established chain of ownership' really isn't. It's
more a registration of the person claiming to be the owner.

"OtisWinslow" wrote in message
m...
There is no "title" as such. FAA maintains a recording of filed
documents that establish the chain of ownership and they maintain
registration records.



What title?

The FSDO offered to give me a number in OKC. - Mike
You're probably correct that it just hasn't been re-registered each
time - Mike


"OtisWinslow" wrote:

I believe if you have the sequential original BOS's to establish the chain
to the last owner that you can file them all together along with the one
transfering
legal ownership to you. Sounds like it just hasn't been reregistered each
time.
Have you visited with your local FSDO?


"Michael Horowitz" wrote in message
.. .
"OtisWinslow" wrote:

What specific title problem is it?


The FAA Registry shows ownership in the name of the person who owned
it three 'generations' ago. We believe we have a collection of Bills
of Sale, but no one told the FAA. - Mike

No, they do not establish ownership. There is no title on an aircraft,
no pink sheet, no title to sign over. You can put any name on the
registration you want. You cannot sue to change a registration, etc.

Sounds like a no brainer. From your original post it sounded like
someone had a cliam or lean against the plane. The FAA doesn't try to
establish who owns the plane. There is no title.

But since FAA registration tells you NOTHING about who owns the plane,
what is your point?

Robert M. Gary wrote:
But since FAA registration tells you NOTHING about who owns the plane,
what is your point?

Hard to know what your point is as nobody has any idea who you are
replying to. Three posts in a row from you that make no sense at all.