Tried to Call it "Runway 7" today...

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:17:16 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

After all the talk about not using "leading zeros" when making radio calls
referring to runways, I tried my darndest to omit those offending zeros
today.

To my surprise and dismay, my mouth has apparently developed an "autopilot"
mode that seemed to prohibit even the simplest changes to my rote radio
procedures. It literally took me FOUR TRIES to be able to refer to our
Runway 7 as "Runway SEVEN" -- not "Runway ZERO SEVEN."

Dang, you wouldn't think such a minor thing would be so hard to change, but
after saying it one way 5.6 zillion-billion times, I just couldn't seem to
get the words out straight!

:-)

I know about verbal autopilot.

I flew for about a week in Mexico, and some controllers were saying
"Roger Roger" instead of "Roger" and we started playing with them.

What I found was the controllers in this area (Campecehe,
Villahermosa, Veracruz) would say either one or two "Rogers" all the
time. So we started doubling up on our "Rogers"

Then we started seeing how far it would go. We started saying Triple
Rogers to everything we could answer affirmatively.

"6030L confirm 20 DME from Campeche"

"Ah, 6030L, Roger Roger Roger"

And the controllers started replying with triple rogers! All was well
and good until we finally came back to the U.S., and after clearing
customs in Brownsville, we were making our way up the cost and Corpus
Christi calls with "30L, verify straight and level at 3000 feet."

Yep, without even thinking I keyed the mike and replied "30L Roger
Roger Roger"

There was a long silence, and just as it was sinking in what I had
done, the controller said "30L....say again?"

It was at least two weeks before I could get rid of the Rogers in my
head while dealing with ATC.


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My 6 year old thought the guy in the tower is NAMED Roger :-) (Probably
has something to do with the fact thats what I told her). She has since
grown up not believing everything I tell her.

"Doug" wrote in message
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My 6 year old thought the guy in the tower is NAMED Roger :-)


Some are.

"Doug" wrote in message
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My 6 year old thought the guy in the tower is NAMED Roger :-) (Probably
has something to do with the fact thats what I told her). She has since
grown up not believing everything I tell her.


Which is a piece of parenting ALL of us should duplicate.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
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My 6 year old thought the guy in the tower is NAMED Roger :-) (Probably
has something to do with the fact thats what I told her). She has since
grown up not believing everything I tell her.

Which is a piece of parenting ALL of us should duplicate.

What? Lieing to your kids?

George Patterson
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It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
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My 6 year old thought the guy in the tower is NAMED Roger :-) (Probably
has something to do with the fact thats what I told her). She has since
grown up not believing everything I tell her.

Which is a piece of parenting ALL of us should duplicate.

What? Lieing to your kids?


If that's what it takes to make them not to believe everything you say is
gospel. Think of it this way. Do you want Skylune's or ZZZZooms children to
think for the rest of their lives that every thing their father tell them is
true?

"Doug" wrote in message
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My 6 year old thought the guy in the tower is NAMED Roger :-) (Probably
has something to do with the fact thats what I told her). She has since
grown up not believing everything I tell her.

My daughter grew up believing almost anything someone told her, and
therefore was at times, very gullible.

I sat off on a mission of curing that problem, and working on a sense of
humor, too. For the longest time, I NEVER gave her the right answer the
first time. When pressed, I would tell the truth, but not until she asked.

It took a period of time for her to start to catch on, and then, I would
only lie to her on the first try, sometimes. She then would have to listen
and question what she was hearing, and decide if it was the truth, or not.

It was a lot of fun, and led to some very humorous situations, but as a
result, she is a quick thinker, and very astute judge of the truth, and of
character. I highly advise a try of your own on this, if you have an
unquestioning youngster.
--
Jim in NC

It was a lot of fun, and led to some very humorous situations, but as a
result, she is a quick thinker, and very astute judge of the truth, and of
character. I highly advise a try of your own on this, if you have an
unquestioning youngster.
--
Jim in NC

I do that with my kids also, they've come to expect the wrong answer first,
but I mix it up so I'm not so predictable. What they've learned is to think
for themselves first, then ask if they still aren't sure. It makes them
THINK and use their heads rather than just depending on someone to give them
the answer. It also teaches them to evaluate the answer that is given to
them rather than just blindly accepting it.

Jim in WI

On 10/20/05 5:50 PM, in article ,
"Jim Burns" wrote:

It was a lot of fun, and led to some very humorous situations, but as a
result, she is a quick thinker, and very astute judge of the truth, and of
character. I highly advise a try of your own on this, if you have an
unquestioning youngster.
--
Jim in NC

I do that with my kids also, they've come to expect the wrong answer first,
but I mix it up so I'm not so predictable. What they've learned is to think
for themselves first, then ask if they still aren't sure. It makes them
THINK and use their heads rather than just depending on someone to give them
the answer. It also teaches them to evaluate the answer that is given to
them rather than just blindly accepting it.

Jim in WI


I thought I was the only one to do this with my kids. Of course, if I was to
tell them that I wasn't, they wouldn't believe me. And if I told them
otherwise, they'd know I was telling the truth, unless I had a silly grin on
my face when I said it, then they'd think I was lying.
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