Commercial rating: complex aircraft required aircraft for practical test?

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
m...
Right. There are a couple of 100 mile duals in there that most people
wouldn't have w/o deliberate commercial intent.

One good trip to Marsh Harbour, Abaco Island, Bahamas took care of that
for me.

You took an instructor?

Peter Duniho wrote:
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
m...
Right. There are a couple of 100 mile duals in there that most people
wouldn't have w/o deliberate commercial intent.

One good trip to Marsh Harbour, Abaco Island, Bahamas took care of that
for me.

You took an instructor?


Hell. no. I took a woman.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

Andrew Gideon wrote:

Watson wrote:


If so, you may want to read
the regulations carefully.

Right. There are a couple of 100 mile duals in there that most people
wouldn't have w/o deliberate commercial intent.



One good trip to Marsh Harbour, Abaco Island, Bahamas took care of that for me.
About 650 NM each way from here. In fact, as I think about it, that trip took
care of several of my requirements.



And you probably didn't even have to pay the instructor for a trip
there! :-)

Matt

The Commercial training is fairly short. I did mine in about the 10
hours required. I rented a Cessna 172RG and took my checkride in that.
I don't think you really save much by going with a less expensive plane
for the manuevers because you need the 10 hours in a complex
regardless. So I just went up and did the manuevers in the RG. For the
long cross country, a less expensive plane makes sense. Also, with the
typical downtime and rental hassles, renting two planes on the day of
the checkride and having them both working is something to think about.


My suggestion is do your long cross country in your plane and the rest
in the least expensive complex plane you can find. Then take the
checkride in the complex plane. Simplist solution and not likely to be
any more expensive than trying to do it in two, or in your case, three
aircraft.

Mark,
I learned all the maneuvers in my C172, then rented a Beech Debonair
for 10 hrs working on landings and emergency procedures, and some
traveling I needed to do.

I then did the commercial check ride in my C172 and the Deb - with
0.3hrs in the deb (two circuits around the pattern at an uncontrolled
field).

I flew the 172 to the the DE's airport, did the oral, paperwork, and
inspection. Flew the chandelles and lazy8's on the way to another
airport, where we rented a BE33 to demonstrate the complex procedures.
Then flew the DE back home.

I used the same BE33 for CFI a few months later.

You could install a constant speed prop and retractable nose gear to
your Cozy, then you would be all set...

Mitch

Mark,
I learned all the maneuvers in my C172, then rented a Beech Debonair
for 10 hrs working on landings and emergency procedures, and some
traveling I needed to do.

I then did the commercial check ride in my C172 and the Deb - with
0.3hrs in the deb (two circuits around the pattern at an uncontrolled
field).

I flew the 172 to the the DE's airport, did the oral, paperwork, and
inspection. Flew the chandelles and lazy8's on the way to another
airport, where we rented a BE33 to demonstrate the complex procedures.
Then flew the DE back home.

I used the same BE33 for CFI a few months later.

You could install a constant speed prop and retractable nose gear to
your Cozy, then you would be all set...

Mitch

Mitch wrote:

I then did the commercial check ride in my C172 and the Deb - with
0.3hrs in the deb (two circuits around the pattern at an uncontrolled
field).

Good suggestions.

You could install a constant speed prop and retractable nose gear to
your Cozy, then you would be all set...

Well, I have retractable nose gear already, and there are COZY's with CS
props (but not mine), but NO COZY's have flaps, and it's not possible to
install them (the landing brake/belly brake is NOT a flap), so it's
still not complex..... :-).

Oh, well.

--
Marc J. Zeitlin
http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright (c) 2005

There's NO reg that says you can't take the Commercial Checkride in two
planes (i.e., a complex and a non-complex). In fact, I did just that; did
the maneuvers in the C-172 and the Complex demonstrations (required in the
PTS) in a Piper Arrow II. Only trick is to find a D.E. that is okay with
that... I had no problem (knew of two D.E.'s both willing to spilt the test
for a slightly higher examiner fee).

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