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Will Rutan go to the moon?



 
 
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Old March 2nd 06, 04:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Chris Wells wrote:
I've got a radio-controlled helicopter that could snatch that prize
easily, with those specifications.


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Yeah, Those rules need to tightened up considerably. Any Heli could
do it. I suspect he means "in an airless environment". But let's not
tell him. He leaves it that way, somone will be instantly rich as soon
as the rules are published.

Harry K

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Old March 2nd 06, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry K
Chris Wells wrote:
I've got a radio-controlled helicopter that could snatch that prize
easily, with those specifications.


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Chris Wells


Yeah, Those rules need to tightened up considerably. Any Heli could
do it. I suspect he means "in an airless environment". But let's not
tell him. He leaves it that way, somone will be instantly rich as soon
as the rules are published.

Harry K

Still doesn't seem too difficult. NASA already has all the pieces. I imagine there's a "trip to the moon" clause in there somewhere...
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Old March 3rd 06, 02:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:02:44 +0000, Chris Wells
wrote:

Yeah, Those rules need to tightened up considerably. Any Heli could
do it. I suspect he means "in an airless environment". But let's not
tell him. He leaves it that way, somone will be instantly rich as
soon as the rules are published.


Still doesn't seem too difficult. NASA already has all the pieces.
I imagine there's a "trip to the moon" clause in there somewhere...


The rules were on the web page, a couple of weeks back when this thread first
appeared. There was a prohibition (can't remember the exact wording) that would
prohibit any sort of aerodynamic lift.

Gotta say I'm not too fired up about this one. The world needs a simple,
low-cost way to orbit for manned vehicles...not a moon buggy.

Ron Wanttaja
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Old March 3rd 06, 02:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Chris Wells wrote:

I've got a radio-controlled helicopter that could snatch that prize
easily, with those specifications.


Did any of you guys claiming that this is so trivial actually read the
rules? It explicitly states:

"3.2.18.1 Take-off vertically under only rocket power from Point A.
No aerodynamic or air-breathing methods of hovering, propulsion, or
landing are permitted except in the case of abort."

"3.2.18.7 Take-off vertically under only rocket power from Point B.
No aerodynamic or air-breathing methods of hovering, propulsion, or
landing are permitted except in the case of abort."

Unless you've got a rocket powered helicopter that doesn't use
aerodynamics for lift, you could snatch nothing easily.

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Marc J. Zeitlin
http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright (c) 2006


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Old March 3rd 06, 02:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Chris Wells wrote:

Harry K Wrote:
Chris Wells wrote:
I've got a radio-controlled helicopter that could snatch that prize
easily, with those specifications.


--
Chris Wells

Yeah, Those rules need to tightened up considerably. Any Heli could
do it. I suspect he means "in an airless environment". But let's not
tell him. He leaves it that way, somone will be instantly rich as
soon
as the rules are published.

Harry K



Still doesn't seem too difficult. NASA already has all the pieces.
I imagine there's a "trip to the moon" clause in there somewhere...


The only problem is: $$$$$$$. The cost to launch a Saturn V in 1969 was
$500M, not including the spacecraft and lander. Figure out the increase,
due to inflation and the R&D even to duplicate one today.
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Old March 3rd 06, 02:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Marc J. Zeitlin" wrote in message
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Chris Wells wrote:
"3.2.18.1 Take-off vertically under only rocket power from Point A. No
aerodynamic or air-breathing methods of hovering, propulsion, or landing
are permitted except in the case of abort."

"3.2.18.7 Take-off vertically under only rocket power from Point B. No
aerodynamic or air-breathing methods of hovering, propulsion, or landing
are permitted except in the case of abort."

Unless you've got a rocket powered helicopter that doesn't use
aerodynamics for lift, you could snatch nothing easily.




Oh, thou dasher of dreams. (G)

Harold
KD5SAK


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Old March 3rd 06, 03:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Marc J. Zeitlin wrote:
Chris Wells wrote:

I've got a radio-controlled helicopter that could snatch that prize
easily, with those specifications.


Did any of you guys claiming that this is so trivial actually read the
rules? It explicitly states:

"3.2.18.1 Take-off vertically under only rocket power from Point A.
No aerodynamic or air-breathing methods of hovering, propulsion, or
landing are permitted except in the case of abort."

"3.2.18.7 Take-off vertically under only rocket power from Point B.
No aerodynamic or air-breathing methods of hovering, propulsion, or
landing are permitted except in the case of abort."

Unless you've got a rocket powered helicopter that doesn't use
aerodynamics for lift, you could snatch nothing easily.

--
Marc J. Zeitlin
http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright (c) 2006


Well shucky darn. That means I can't take it with my antigravity
drive. It is all perfected, I only need to get that last magnet
adjusted just soooo..

Harry K

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Old March 3rd 06, 06:42 AM
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Did any of you guys claiming that this is so trivial actually read the
rules?

Actually, the link didn't work for me, I was only going by the statement in the OP. I was joking, as was the person who mentioned the Mini 500.
 




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