SNF WiFi

("john smith" wrote)
sitting at the flightline watching the Mustangs peel off to land...

... streaming the live video to the web!


I scheduled my OSH lodging to start the first Saturday night, so I'll be
there Saturday AND Sunday, on the flight line - not driving over (6 hrs)
Sunday morning ...missing all the arrivals!

Chair, camera, scanner, cell phone(?), umbrella, sunscreen ...refreshments,
snacks, sandwich.

Two days for arrivals!! Mmm.

"You been here two days already. You tired? Feet hurt?"
"No. Not so much." g


Montblack

1st. The fiber has just been installed. Speed about 15MPS, which is about
12 T1's. That's a lot of bandwidth, we're talking a big, big pipe.

Whoo hoo! Two and a half cable modems!

2nd. It will not be free, neither will it be anywhere near as costly as I
was told it was as OSH last year. (I was told $400 per person) .
Rates are $7.95 per day or $39.95 from 4/4/06 to 4/10/06

Nothing like a captive audience, eh?

or $59.95 from 3/20/06 to 4/15/06.

Now that's a bit more like it. Too bad you have to use it all 26 days to
get the price/day down.

3rd. No company is going to provide this service at a loss.. Please take
your laptop and purchase the service even if it's just for a day or two.
(You know you have to check that e-mail!) You could imagine it takes quite
an investment for any company to provide a service like this.

Actually, I'm having trouble imagining this being much of an investment at
all. $500-1000 or so, tops, and that's at retail rates. Presumably a
telecom company needs to invest less. Yes, you'll need at least a few
customers to make it worth it. But bandwidth is cheap, and the proposed
rates are high. It won't take many people to break even.

I guess the biggest surprise to me is that with fiber, you're only getting
15Mbps.

I apologize for my cynical view, but frankly your post reads like everyone
ought to be wowed by the service that's going to be provided, and while I
think it's nice there will be access for those who want it, I can't say that
I'm even close to being wowed.

Pete

In article ,
wrote:

Via VPN, with SSL on top sir.

Excellent! That makes it worth the price.

Pete,

My tech guy wanted me to tell you the speed is 15 up and 15 down
(synchronous), which is not available on a cable modem.
15 megs is the fastest the local service provider can provide.
There are over 20 antennas, radios and amps. There are also a number of
wireless bridges required to cover the 10 square miles.
Again I can't say much, but I'm sure you can't even get the service
installed for the amount you figured.

Please Sir, I know you are a regular poster to this group, I have lurked for
years, this is my first post on any subject, no reply is neccessary and I
can say no more.

Bill
ASEL
N6422J

Please Sir, I know you are a regular poster to this group, I have lurked for
years, this is my first post on any subject, no reply is neccessary and I
can say no more.

Bill, don't worry about Peter. The rest of us don't. Just be amused like
the rest of us.

LOL , Shew, thanks!

wrote in message
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My tech guy wanted me to tell you the speed is 15 up and 15 down
(synchronous), which is not available on a cable modem.

That's true...I did say "two and a half", I believe.

Unless you're saying that each user will be getting 15Mbps symmetric (I
believe "symmetric" is the word you want, not "synchronous"), I don't see
the speed to be all that impressive. It's nice it's symmetric, but the
reason asymmetric connections work so well for DSL and cable modems is that
most users are doing a lot more downloading than uploading.

Unless you're selling this service to people hosting web sites, I don't
think the symmetric nature is all that important, and the 15Mbps download
pipe isn't very different from existing residential service (by only a
factor of 2.5 in the example I cited). And as Todd points out, it's
extremely close to one recent service roll-out in the US (and while I don't
have first-hand experience with broadband abroad, my understanding is that
we in the US are way behind the rest of the developed world in terms of
residential bandwidth).

15 megs is the fastest the local service provider can provide.
There are over 20 antennas, radios and amps. There are also a number of
wireless bridges required to cover the 10 square miles.
Again I can't say much, but I'm sure you can't even get the service
installed for the amount you figured.

It wasn't clear from your post that the service would be guaranteed
available over 100% of the airport. You're right, there is a more
considerable investment required for that sort of layout.

That said, the broader coverage you're talking about will require many more
users for break-even, making the 15Mbps bandwidth even less impressive.
Even just 100 simultaneous users will drop average performance to marginal
levels.

Anyway, as I said, it's nice that ANY Internet access will be available. I
just hope no one is expecting a lot of bang for their buck.

Pete

"T o d d P a t t i s t" wrote in message
...
Actually, with the latest residential cable service being
rolled out, it's only 15/16 ths of the download speed:

Yup, I did see that. I didn't want to use that speed as a comparison,
because it's a relatively restricted service in terms of availability.

[...]
However, the fiber is likely to be a symmetrical pipe, so
the upload speed will be far faster than these 2 and 1 Mbps
services (although I doubt any individual subscriber would
get access to more than a tiny fraction of the full upload
bandwidth).

Nor more than a tiny fraction of the full download bandwidth. As I
mentioned in my other reply, it's good marketing to have a symmetric
service, but for most users, it's not a relevant point. They aren't pushing
as much data out as they are pulling it in.

Pete

"Jay Honeck" writes:

4th. No promises regarding OSH. Let us wrestle one monster at a time,
O.K.

No offense, Bill (and what you're doing in Lakeland sounds AWESOME), but I'd
be just as happy if you did not install WiFi at OSH. Call me a Luddite, but
Airventure is my week AWAY from my PC. If I had my druthers, I'd install a
cell-phone jammer in the North 40, too.

Jay, your cell phone has a power switch. You control it, not the
other way around. So, do what's best for you! And don't try to force
other people to do it your way (jammer).
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Please Sir, I know you are a regular poster to this group, I have lurked for
years, this is my first post on any subject, no reply is neccessary and I
can say no more.

Dang, Pete, you've got poor Bill here spooked on his very first thread.


Tone it down, will ya?

;-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
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"Your Aviation Destination"