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Old April 13th 06, 05:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Dan wrote in news:r_h%f.1115$iF3.13@dukeread01:

Snipola
And then remaining on the ground permanently.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


According to the story, the UH1 had no problem with it.

But, I'll admit it's been a long time since I read the book
so I could be misremembering.

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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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This reminds me, ISTR reading a book many many years ago, I don't
remember the title, but it was about some guys experiences in 'Nam
who flew Hueys. He said sometimes they'd get to an LZ that was smaller
than expected and they'd use the massive blades to just chop their
way in, taking out 4 inch branches along the way.

Brian
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You're probably thinking about the book "Chicken Hawk" by Robert Mason. A
good read about flying Huey slicks and gunship in Vietnam.

Thanks...ordered one from Amazon!


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Old April 13th 06, 03:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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On 12 Apr 2006 07:17:07 -0700, "Flyingmonk" wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjLA...rch=helicopter

Anyone know the name of this idiot? What happened to him? Is he still
flying on the taxpayer's dime?

Enquiring mines want to know.


I checked with a group of military aviators and got this back from one
of the Army rotor-heads:

This happened in 1999 at Ft Campbell Ky and was the basis for the
decision of the flight evaluation board to remove the Instructor Pilot
from flight status.


Ed Rasimus
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Old April 13th 06, 05:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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On 12 Apr 2006 07:17:07 -0700, "Flyingmonk" wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjLA...rch=helicopter

Anyone know the name of this idiot? What happened to him? Is he still
flying on the taxpayer's dime?

Enquiring mines want to know.


I checked with a group of military aviators and got this back from one
of the Army rotor-heads:

This happened in 1999 at Ft Campbell Ky and was the basis for the
decision of the flight evaluation board to remove the Instructor Pilot
from flight status.


Likely from a 160th SOAR aircraft, I'd guess (a two-pilot aircraft with an
IR/T nav system--not common in the regular force birds). Those special
operators have something of a history of high accident rates in training,
but then again that training is a bit more demanding than that required of
the "regular" aviators.

Brooks



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Old April 13th 06, 06:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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It was a typo.

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Old April 13th 06, 08:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Kevin Brooks wrote:

Likely from a 160th SOAR aircraft, I'd guess (a two-pilot aircraft with an
IR/T nav system--not common in the regular force birds). Those special
operators have something of a history of high accident rates in training,
but then again that training is a bit more demanding than that required of
the "regular" aviators.


What about Apaches?

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Old April 14th 06, 04:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Hell he probably is an O-7 by now.... lol


"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjLA...rch=helicopter

Anyone know the name of this idiot? What happened to him? Is he still
flying on the taxpayer's dime?

Enquiring mines want to know.



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Old April 14th 06, 03:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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My guess is that had he kept his mouth shut and not announced the ease
by which his ego was able to outsmart his brain, the flight evaluation
report might have read something like:

"Pilot misjudged lateral clearance during flight, and blades struck a
tree. Pilot maintained control of the aircraft during emergency landing
and landed the helicopter safely and without injury.

Pilot will be scheduled for 4 hours remedial training and a peripheral
vision test prior to being returned to flight status."

Heck, it might not even have ****ed off the OP!

Loose lips sink ships as they say...


Ed Rasimus wrote in
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On 12 Apr 2006 07:17:07 -0700, "Flyingmonk" wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjLA...rch=helicopter

Anyone know the name of this idiot? What happened to him? Is he
still flying on the taxpayer's dime?

Enquiring mines want to know.


I checked with a group of military aviators and got this back from ne
of the Army rotor-heads:

This happened in 1999 at Ft Campbell Ky and was the basis for the
decision of the flight evaluation board to remove the Instructor Pilt
from flight status.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com


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Old April 14th 06, 05:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message
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Kevin Brooks wrote:

Likely from a 160th SOAR aircraft, I'd guess (a two-pilot aircraft with
an IR/T nav system--not common in the regular force birds). Those special
operators have something of a history of high accident rates in training,
but then again that training is a bit more demanding than that required
of the "regular" aviators.


What about Apaches?


Don't have IR/T *nav* systems AFAIK; they do have such for weapons targeting
use, though. And while I think the gunner does have basic flight controls at
his seat, and is a rated pilot, I don't think it as likely that the pilot
would have to be telling him that he has"got it" and basically to keep his
cotton-pickin' mitts off the controls. I guess it is a possible, but the way
I heard the cross-talk in the video made it sound a bit less likely. I'd be
guessing something more along the lines of MH-60, but again, just a guess.

Brooks


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Old April 14th 06, 08:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Kevin Brooks wrote:
"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message
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What about Apaches?



Don't have IR/T *nav* systems AFAIK; they do have such for weapons targeting
use, though.


They sure do have an IR nav system. There are two separate sensor
turrets in the Apache's nose. The big one is the Target Acquisition and
Designation Sight (TADS) that you're thinking of, but there is a
smaller ball mounted above that called the Pilot Night Vision Sensor
(PNVS). The PNVS is a FLIR intended specifically for navigation rather
than targeting. The systems are nicely illustrated he

http://members.aol.com/ah64info/tadspnvs.htm

And while I think the gunner does have basic flight controls at
his seat, and is a rated pilot, I don't think it as likely that the pilot
would have to be telling him that he has"got it" and basically to keep his
cotton-pickin' mitts off the controls. I guess it is a possible, but the way
I heard the cross-talk in the video made it sound a bit less likely. I'd be
guessing something more along the lines of MH-60, but again, just a guess.


If Ed Rasimus' post is correct, the guy flying was an instructor pilot.
It's apparently not unusual for the IP to fly from the front
(co-pilot/gunner) seat in an Apache.

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