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Old April 24th 06, 03:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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Its amazing that someone thought that would be a good idea.

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Helicopters/999.htm

Would you fly this one?



Definitely!
The reason, why somebody tried this very good, but unusual (and at first
confusing) concept is:

As we all know, a helicopter is at least statically unstable. This is
one of the big disadvantages esp. in hovering.

BUT, if the CG is above the rotor disc, the whole things becomes
stable!!!

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Old April 24th 06, 03:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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Or how 'bout these huh?

http://i3.tinypic.com/wapyfd.jpg

This one actually flew. Can you imagine losing a blade? Can you
imagine stumbling on landing?

http://i3.tinypic.com/wapyxk.jpg

How's bout one w/ only one blade?
http://i3.tinypic.com/wapz6s.jpg
http://i3.tinypic.com/wapzeq.jpg

What's the deal w/ the counter weight? Why not have two blades and use
that dead weight to generate lift?

The Monk

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Old April 24th 06, 04:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Flyingmonk" wrote

What's the deal w/ the counter weight? Why not have two blades and use
that dead weight to generate lift?


Believe it or not, every additional blade means a loss of efficiency. One
blade should hover and fly on less HP than two blade. That says nothing for
smoothness, and I would think that setup would be totally unacceptable, for
that one.
--
Jim in NC

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Old April 24th 06, 06:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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Morgans wrote:

Believe it or not, every additional blade means a loss of efficiency. One
blade should hover and fly on less HP than two blade. That says nothing
for smoothness, and I would think that setup would be totally
unacceptable, for that one.


I have seen propellers for a model airplane that had only one blade, with
a counter weight... has it ever been made for a full scale aircraft?

--Sylvain
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Old April 24th 06, 05:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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One small step for a man...
One giant leap for humanburger.

My apologies to Neil Armstrong.


Flyingmonk wrote:
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Helicopters/999.htm

Would you fly this one?

The Monk


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Old April 24th 06, 01:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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In article .com,
says...


http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Helicopters/999.htm

Would you fly this one?


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The picture about four slides later is not bad either!
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Helicopters/1046.htm
Buzzsaw in the breadbasket - front and rear!

How much efficiency would be sacrificed by putting a wireframe guard
around these things? I don't mean a tight mesh that you couldn't still
get a finger into - but at least something rigid enough to keep you
from slipping in up to your waist! Damn.

GF

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Old April 24th 06, 01:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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The picture about four slides later is not bad either!
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Helicopters/1046.htm
Buzzsaw in the breadbasket - front and rear!


Holy Crap!

Is the pilot really as close to the blades as it appears?
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Old April 24th 06, 08:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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("Greg Farris" wrote)
The picture about four slides later is not bad either!
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Helicopters/1046.htm
Buzzsaw in the breadbasket - front and rear!



"Please DO NOT remove Shopping Carts from the parking lot."


Montblack
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Old April 25th 06, 11:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Greg Farris" wrote

The picture about four slides later is not bad either!
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Helicopters/1046.htm
Buzzsaw in the breadbasket - front and rear!

How much efficiency would be sacrificed by putting a wireframe guard
around these things? I don't mean a tight mesh that you couldn't still
get a finger into - but at least something rigid enough to keep you
from slipping in up to your waist! Damn.


Damn, is the least you can say? Double damn!

Ever seen a prop spin off of a model airplane engine? I have.

I was testing the needle setting by holding it pointed straight up, wide
open throttle. If it sags, going lean pointed up like that, then it needs
more adjustment.

For what ever reason, (either it got loosened, or I forgot to tighten it) it
suddenly departed the engine. I was surprised (understatement of the year)
to see it continuing to spin, in the same rotational plane. With no weight
holding it down, the thrust lifted the prop straight up into the air about 5
feet rather quickly; then it arced back over my head. (and two or three
other ducking bystanders) It happened so quickly, I barely had time to duck
and pull the throttle down, to avoid hand grenading the engine.

Now picture one of those props doing the same thing.

Oh, and I also wonder what OSHA would think about that setup, nowadays.
(:-o)

Nah, that's a lie. I don't have to wonder! g
--
Jim in NC


 




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