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Old September 3rd 06, 11:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
I'm sure there are others that we haven't yet discovered -- but the
plane is gassed and ready to go! Where are the fly-in casinos in
*your* neck of the woods?


Casino clientele make up a fair percentage of my charter business. When
someone has the fever, they just have to go. Usually they call around
midnight, or later, and half-drunk. The local indian tribe took away some of
that business when they opened their money-pit, but casinos in the Caribbean
will always have an alure.

D.


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Old September 4th 06, 12:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Personally, I think gambling casinos are state-sponsored theft from the
ignorant -- but, hey, if it keeps my taxes lower, who am I to argue?


Long term it creates a dependence... it makes a welfare recipient out of
government. Once the government learns to rely on the casinos for their
revenue, the casinos start dictating terms. We are fighting this tooth
and nail in Connecticut, where the Indians are claiming ownership and
"settling for" casinos.

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Old September 4th 06, 03:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:


Personally, I think gambling casinos are state-sponsored theft from the
ignorant -- but, hey, if it keeps my taxes lower, who am I to argue?


A company I worked for once had a contract for some work in a Mississippi
casino, and I got to watch the operation up close as we finished. The joint
did everything it could--as they all do--to enable compulsive gamblers. In
addition to the free drinks and handy ATM machines everywhere, they had one
feature that I found particularly grotesque and repulsive: a 24-hour child
care room where parents could and did drop their kids off at all hours of
the day or night so Mom and Dad could gamble.

Ever since I saw that, I have found casinos loathsome. They have lots of
hidden costs that everyone pays. Casinos are for suckers and that includes
people who never even go.

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Old September 4th 06, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Wow... that sounds just like the Kiddy Cavern or what ever they called it at
Baraboo/Dells... we actually walked into it wondering just what in the
world they were doing... THEN we saw how you could dump your kids there and
pay them $6.50 per hour to watch your kids dump money into video games while
you dumped yours into slot machines... Next thing you'll see is a doggy day
care for those who can't get out to gamble because they have pets....

Oh well... they cater to the addictable... I'll still eat their food and let
them drive me too and from the airport... suckers.

Jim



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Old September 4th 06, 07:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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IIRC, I looked though the pics that jay posted from his trip to Vegas
and agree with him, his family does look like they LOVE to eat..... G


Jay Honeck wrote:
Actually I can fly to Cabella's in Sydney NE in less than an hour and
get van service from the airport.


Yeah, they'll do that at the Cabela's in Prairie du Chein, WI, too.
We've done it a couple of times.

Trouble is -- we fly for food, not camping gear! I love to visit
Cabela's, but they'll need to build an in-store diner if they want to
compete with the casino...

;-)

(And actually the casino in Prairie du Chein is NOT smoky. The one in
the Dells is simply badly in need of a new air handling system...)
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old September 4th 06, 09:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay.. how far away is "one town south"?

Most of the casino towns near me (3-4 hours away from Houston in
Louisiana have shuttles that go to the nearby hotels from the casinos.
Some are run by the hotels.. some are run by the casinos..

If this isnt more than a 10-15 minute drive, you outta consider the
possibility of shuttling guests to the casino if it can be supported by
your business model. Obviously if its not conducive to the bottom line
then it wouldnt make sense to do so. You know your situation and market
better than I.


In answer to your question..

Grand Casino Coushatta, Kinder, LA. Closest public airport 15 mi away in
Oakdale, LA with a bizjet capable field (yet nearly abandoned, few based
planes) and hospitality trailer. They shuttle. I've ended up with a limo
ride a few times instead of the van.

I've not flown to em, but there are casino's in Lake Charles, LA.. one
near Chennault Field and another near Lake Charles. I believe both
casino's shuttle from there.

Shreveport Downtown airport is less than a mile from the riverboats in
Shreveport, LA. No shuttle service but a cabride for a mile cant be more
than 10 bux (well it can, but I digress). I've never done downtown,
always went to the big airport and stayed with family out there.

Dave

Jay Honeck wrote:
"Our" new casino, built to the tune of over $100 million, opened last
week in Riverside, IA, just one town south of us. Iowa City's airport
is the closest, so we expect to see some traffic because of this,
although, of course, they've built their own hotel, so it may actually
*hurt* our business...

Anyway, for those of you who enjoy gambling, there is now yet another
reason to come visit us!

(An aside. This area is really becoming quite amazing. In a single
day, you can see Amish on horse and buggies, eat lunch in Amana (a
large German, formerly communal settlement that is Iowa's biggest
tourist attraction), play some black jack at the casino for lunch, and
attend a world-class play or concert at the University in the evening.
All without traffic or crime.)

Say what you want about gambling, the casinos usually bend over
backwards to provide service to pilots, under the (often false)
assumption that we've got money to burn. Which leads to the subject
line.

We routinely visit the casino in Prairie du Chein, WI, not because we
like to gamble, but because we enjoy their airport pick-up/drop-off
service, and their (*burp*) buffets. Just a week or two ago, we
joined Jim & Tami Burns in a flight to the "Ho-Chunk Casino" (I'm NOT
making that name up) in Baraboo/Wisconsin Dells -- once again, just to
eat. (Ho-Chunk is pretty cool, actually, with a very "Cabela's-like"
indoor mountain/water fall, marred only by the thick blue cigarette
smoke atmosphere...)

I'm sure there are others that we haven't yet discovered -- but the
plane is gassed and ready to go! Where are the fly-in casinos in
*your* neck of the woods?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old September 4th 06, 12:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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IIRC, I looked though the pics that jay posted from his trip to Vegas
and agree with him, his family does look like they LOVE to eat..... G


Hmmm. Not sure how to take that...

;-)

If you're implying we're overweight, we're not. In fact, we just
checked our BMI yesterday, and only my son is out of wack -- and he's
170 pounds of solid muscle. (The body mass index obviously doesn't
take athletes of short stature into account...)

On the other hand, if you're implying that we take a lot of pix at
restaurants and bars -- we're guilty as charged!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old September 4th 06, 02:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I was the pics of the restaurants I was referring to, They looked
very inviting for sure, and the size of some of those " adult
beverages" was cruel and unusual punishment. G
Jay Honeck wrote:
IIRC, I looked though the pics that jay posted from his trip to Vegas
and agree with him, his family does look like they LOVE to eat..... G


Hmmm. Not sure how to take that...

;-)

If you're implying we're overweight, we're not. In fact, we just
checked our BMI yesterday, and only my son is out of wack -- and he's
170 pounds of solid muscle. (The body mass index obviously doesn't
take athletes of short stature into account...)

On the other hand, if you're implying that we take a lot of pix at
restaurants and bars -- we're guilty as charged!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old September 4th 06, 02:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default Casinos by air?

I was the pics of the restaurants I was referring to, They looked
very inviting for sure, and the size of some of those " adult
beverages" was cruel and unusual punishment. G


AH, you must be referring to the "Jim Burns Memorial Margaritas" --
which stood almost as tall as my daughter.

It was hell, but SOMEONE had to drink 'em...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old September 4th 06, 05:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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What I dont understand is only the Indians can have Casino's. I know some
wealthy bussiness man or corporation are either funding or running it. I
just think anyone should be able to but in for the local casino.
"Dave S" wrote in message
ink.net...
Jay.. how far away is "one town south"?

Most of the casino towns near me (3-4 hours away from Houston in Louisiana
have shuttles that go to the nearby hotels from the casinos. Some are run
by the hotels.. some are run by the casinos..

If this isnt more than a 10-15 minute drive, you outta consider the
possibility of shuttling guests to the casino if it can be supported by
your business model. Obviously if its not conducive to the bottom line
then it wouldnt make sense to do so. You know your situation and market
better than I.


In answer to your question..

Grand Casino Coushatta, Kinder, LA. Closest public airport 15 mi away in
Oakdale, LA with a bizjet capable field (yet nearly abandoned, few based
planes) and hospitality trailer. They shuttle. I've ended up with a limo
ride a few times instead of the van.

I've not flown to em, but there are casino's in Lake Charles, LA.. one
near Chennault Field and another near Lake Charles. I believe both
casino's shuttle from there.

Shreveport Downtown airport is less than a mile from the riverboats in
Shreveport, LA. No shuttle service but a cabride for a mile cant be more
than 10 bux (well it can, but I digress). I've never done downtown, always
went to the big airport and stayed with family out there.

Dave

Jay Honeck wrote:
"Our" new casino, built to the tune of over $100 million, opened last
week in Riverside, IA, just one town south of us. Iowa City's airport
is the closest, so we expect to see some traffic because of this,
although, of course, they've built their own hotel, so it may actually
*hurt* our business...

Anyway, for those of you who enjoy gambling, there is now yet another
reason to come visit us!

(An aside. This area is really becoming quite amazing. In a single
day, you can see Amish on horse and buggies, eat lunch in Amana (a
large German, formerly communal settlement that is Iowa's biggest
tourist attraction), play some black jack at the casino for lunch, and
attend a world-class play or concert at the University in the evening.
All without traffic or crime.)

Say what you want about gambling, the casinos usually bend over
backwards to provide service to pilots, under the (often false)
assumption that we've got money to burn. Which leads to the subject
line.

We routinely visit the casino in Prairie du Chein, WI, not because we
like to gamble, but because we enjoy their airport pick-up/drop-off
service, and their (*burp*) buffets. Just a week or two ago, we
joined Jim & Tami Burns in a flight to the "Ho-Chunk Casino" (I'm NOT
making that name up) in Baraboo/Wisconsin Dells -- once again, just to
eat. (Ho-Chunk is pretty cool, actually, with a very "Cabela's-like"
indoor mountain/water fall, marred only by the thick blue cigarette
smoke atmosphere...)

I'm sure there are others that we haven't yet discovered -- but the
plane is gassed and ready to go! Where are the fly-in casinos in
*your* neck of the woods?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



 




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