ATC subtle hints

B A R R Y wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:19:49 -0500, Emily
wrote:

He replies back, "Oh, ok. Because I have
you at 900 and two other aircraft at 650, so I was just wondering what
was going on."


My plane had an intermittent issue where the transponder would create
a double return.

"58S, I'm getting a second return near you, same altitude. State
number in formation..." REALLY gets your attention!

That's one of those calls that takes 10 years off your life.

Sometimes drug smugglers sell their airplanes [if they
didn't just steal one for the trip]. If the DEA gets a
chance they will hardwire their own transponder in the
airplane so it is always on so they can track them. The new
owner finds out that their regular panel mounted transponder
isn't working and then they find the DEA's mounted somewhere
in the belly.



"B A R R Y" wrote in
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| On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:19:49 -0500, Emily
| wrote:
|
| He replies back, "Oh, ok. Because I have
| you at 900 and two other aircraft at 650, so I was just
wondering what
| was going on."
|
|
| My plane had an intermittent issue where the transponder
would create
| a double return.
|
| "58S, I'm getting a second return near you, same altitude.
State
| number in formation..." REALLY gets your attention!

In a previous article, said:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:19:49 -0500, Emily
wrote:

He replies back, "Oh, ok. Because I have
you at 900 and two other aircraft at 650, so I was just wondering what
was going on."


My plane had an intermittent issue where the transponder would create
a double return.

One of our club's planes did that for a while, but mostly when talking to
Rochester Approach. Approach didn't like it much, because it sets off a
collision alarm - and sometimes the ghost would be squawking 7777, which
sets off other alarms.

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Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
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the world.
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Jim Macklin wrote:
Sometimes drug smugglers sell their airplanes [if they
didn't just steal one for the trip]. If the DEA gets a
chance they will hardwire their own transponder in the
airplane so it is always on so they can track them. The new
owner finds out that their regular panel mounted transponder
isn't working and then they find the DEA's mounted somewhere
in the belly.

Is that legal? Adding a transponder kind of affects w&b and is supposed
to be written in a logbook somewhere. I know they're the government, but
somehow I don't think the FAA would overlook it.

In a previous article, Emily said:
Jim Macklin wrote:
didn't just steal one for the trip]. If the DEA gets a
chance they will hardwire their own transponder in the
airplane so it is always on so they can track them. The new
Is that legal? Adding a transponder kind of affects w&b and is supposed
to be written in a logbook somewhere. I know they're the government, but
somehow I don't think the FAA would overlook it.

According to some sources, at least one of these illegal DEA wiring jobs
was discovered because it caused an in-flight electrical fire!

--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
"Dad, I left my heart up there."
-- Francis Gary Powers after his first flight (age 14)

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:32:20 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

Sometimes drug smugglers sell their airplanes [if they
didn't just steal one for the trip]. If the DEA gets a
chance they will hardwire their own transponder in the
airplane so it is always on so they can track them. The new
owner finds out that their regular panel mounted transponder
isn't working and then they find the DEA's mounted somewhere
in the belly.


?? How would the DEA get a chance to do that? Do they get a warrant to
break into a suspect aircraft and install additional avionics?







randall g =%^) PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
http://www.telemark.net/randallg
Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca

In a previous article, randall g said:
?? How would the DEA get a chance to do that? Do they get a warrant to
break into a suspect aircraft and install additional avionics?

Warrants? The "War On [Some] Drugs" was the training ground for the sorts
of unconstitutional excesses that are now part of the "War On [Some]
Terrorists".


--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
"Being lectured on fiscal responsibility by George Bush is like being
lectured on law and order by Tony Soprano." - John Kerry

randall g wrote:
?? How would the DEA get a chance to do that? Do they get a warrant to
break into a suspect aircraft and install additional avionics?

warrants went out of fashion, a bit like the dodo and habeas corpus...

--Sylvain

I was departing recently on a long XC flight, and had left the baggage
door open (I know, I know, new item on the checklist...)

It took a couple of minutes after takeoff to determine what was causing
the unusual breeze in the cabin. We weren't yet out of the CZ.

Me: TUM would like to return for landing
ATC: Roger TUM follow the shoreline back to right base 30
a few seconds later...
ATC: TUM is there anything you need? Anything we can do for you?
Me: TUM didn't want to mention it but my baggage door is open and I need
to close it
ATC: Roger TUM, cleared to land on 30, cross 25 to the apron, call
ground when you are ready to leave again
Me: TUM crossing 25

Then when I made my right turn to final, the door slammed shut. Should
have thought of that. I landed and checked it out anyway. It was
probably the dumbest thing they heard that day.



randall g =%^) PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
http://www.telemark.net/randallg
Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca

Emily wrote:
Jim Macklin wrote:

Sometimes drug smugglers sell their airplanes [if they didn't just
steal one for the trip]. If the DEA gets a chance they will hardwire
their own transponder in the airplane so it is always on so they can
track them. The new owner finds out that their regular panel mounted
transponder isn't working and then they find the DEA's mounted
somewhere in the belly.

Is that legal? Adding a transponder kind of affects w&b and is supposed
to be written in a logbook somewhere. I know they're the government, but
somehow I don't think the FAA would overlook it.


The FAA is in on it.