ATC speed instructions, wind and altimeter indications

Mxsmanic wrote:
ATC never gives me speed instructions in simulation; how common are
they in real life? I presume they know enough about aircraft types to
know how fast or slow they can go?

I fly a Mooney so speed restrictions are not uncommon when approaching
busy GA fields.
Strangely about a month ago I was coming into SMO VFR and about the
time I crossed the fence tower said "93V, you're too fast". I have no
idea what that was suppose to mean but I continued to land since he
didn't say otherwise. I asked my wife afterwards if I heard it
correctly and she said I did. Since there is only about 10 seconds
between crossing the fence and touch down there wasn't time to ask
questions. Anyway, that's my "that was very odd" ATC story. Maybe he
didn't think I could stop in time. I think I was doing 170 kts on
approach ground speed but was only doing about 100 over the fence. Not
too uncommon speeds for very busy airports.

-Robert, CFII

I fly a Mooney so speed restrictions are not uncommon when approaching
busy GA fields.
Strangely about a month ago I was coming into SMO VFR and about the
time I crossed the fence tower said "93V, you're too fast".

Just a thought, but was it the same voice you heard while talking to the tower?

I was thinking it could have been an onlooker (like mxsmanic) standing by the
fence with a handheld.

Could it be that the tower got a speed from a radar sweep that was taken just
before you slowed down?
--
Jim in NC

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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... I don't trust ATC in the simulation much. It provides some practice
but there's a lot missing, and even with the little bit of ATC I've
listened to in real life (years ago--can't easily do it here), I seem
to recall discrepancies.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message

... I don't trust ATC in the simulation much. It provides some practice
but there's a lot missing, and even with the little bit of ATC I've
listened to in real life (years ago--can't easily do it here), I seem
to recall discrepancies.

Right....

You wouldn't know a discrepancy if it hit you in the ass.
--
Jim in NC

Mxsmanic wrote:
ATC never gives me speed instructions in simulation; how common are
they in real life? I presume they know enough about aircraft types to
know how fast or slow they can go?

Also, don't controllers give wind speed and direction when clearing
someone for take-off? I never get that in simulation, but I could
swear that I've heard it regularly in real ATC.

And another thing: Do controllers provide altimeter settings only in
specific circumstances, or what? Apparently after a handoff from one
center to another they give altimeter settings, but when otherwise?

I don't trust ATC in the simulation much. It provides some practice
but there's a lot missing, and even with the little bit of ATC I've
listened to in real life (years ago--can't easily do it here), I seem
to recall discrepancies.


MSFS is exactly like real life flying. You have said so yourself many,
many times.

601XL Builder writes:

MSFS is exactly like real life flying. You have said so yourself many,
many times.

Where?

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Mxsmanic wrote:
ATC never gives me speed instructions in simulation; how common are
they in real life? I presume they know enough about aircraft types to
know how fast or slow they can go?

Sometimes you never hear a speed restriction, some days when
the terminal areas are congested, you hear them continually.
We were coming back from San Jose on United (ATC on 9) and
everybody going into Dulles was getting speed restrictions to
meter things into there.

Speed restrictions were normally utilized to maintain ezisting spacing
between aircraft. It also allowed the controller a norma for achieveing
spacong.
Al

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:
ATC never gives me speed instructions in simulation; how common are
they in real life? I presume they know enough about aircraft types to
know how fast or slow they can go?

Sometimes you never hear a speed restriction, some days when
the terminal areas are congested, you hear them continually.
We were coming back from San Jose on United (ATC on 9) and
everybody going into Dulles was getting speed restrictions to
meter things into there.