license woes

BB wrote:
You could surrender 1992 Private ASEL US, then request a private pilot
certificate with both glider and ASEL ratings based on your Japanese
license. (Presuming the Japanese licence is not itself issued on the
basis of US licence, and becomes invalid when your US licence goes).

Thanks for pointing that out. Actually, my Japanese ASEL was issued
based on US ASEL.. On its face, there is no indication that it was
issued
based on US ASEL, though. I may well be voided if I surrender US ASEL..

-Gen

Peter,

Peter wrote:
That worked fine until i got my US ASEL rating, at which point the
temporary US Glider private rating was no longer valid and I had to go

I was digging web, and found an official document addressing this
specific issue.
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/e.../8700/volume2/...

Here is an excerpt.
NOTE: A person who applies for a U.S. pilot certificate by
accomplishing the appropriate pilot certification requirements of part
61 and also holds a pilot certificate issued under 61.75 need not
surrender that U.S. pilot certificate. There have been isolated
incidences where examiners have erroneously required a person to
surrender the 61.75 pilot certificate when applying for the standard
U.S. pilot certificate. In this instance, it is permissible for a
person to hold both a pilot certificate issued under 61.75 and a
standard U.S. pilot certificate.

Your glider license should have been valid.

-Gen

gen wrote:
Peter,

Peter wrote:
That worked fine until i got my US ASEL rating, at which point the
temporary US Glider private rating was no longer valid and I had to go

I was digging web, and found an official document addressing this
specific issue.
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/e.../8700/volume2/...

Here is an excerpt.
NOTE: A person who applies for a U.S. pilot certificate by
accomplishing the appropriate pilot certification requirements of part
61 and also holds a pilot certificate issued under 61.75 need not
surrender that U.S. pilot certificate. There have been isolated
incidences where examiners have erroneously required a person to
surrender the 61.75 pilot certificate when applying for the standard
U.S. pilot certificate. In this instance, it is permissible for a
person to hold both a pilot certificate issued under 61.75 and a
standard U.S. pilot certificate.

Your glider license should have been valid.

Full URL he

http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/e...a/87v2_TOC.pdf

Jack wrote:
Full URL he

http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/e...a/87v2_TOC.pdf

Ah, my URL was incomplete. This is what I meant:

General Aviation Operations Inspector's Handbook, Order 8700.1: Chapter
29.

http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/e...a/2_029_00.pdf

-Gen

Hello,

I had exactly the same thing (as the original poster described) happen to me
a number of years ago.The Reno NV FAA office later gave me the impression
that it is not possible to surrender a US SEL? If this is indeed possible,
how does one go about it? -And if not, does anyone have experience/advice on
how much it requires to add a glider rating to the SEL?

Thanks,
Lars Peder
DG-600 "EE", Denmark

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"Mike the Strike" wrote in message
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You have two choices - surrender your existing US SEL certificate or
add a glider rating to it. It's pointless to try to get an exception,
which could take years and probably wouldn't succeed.

Only you can decide which is the most attractive alternative - pay the
money or shred your old certificate.

Mike

Lars,

Surrendering US ASEL is possible per 61.27.
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...1.1.18&idno=14

Once you surrender it, you no longer have a US pilot certificate, so
61.75(b)(3) will not apply. Your application to convert a foreign
glider license will go through. Multiple FAA officers at San Jose FSDO
told me so.

The cost to add a glider rating to ASEL varies much depending on which
club you choose. Apparently, the club I used to belong is on the high
end. Some people say it's less than $500 in Reno/Truckee area.

Hope this helps.

-Gen

Lars Peder Hansen wrote:
Hello,

I had exactly the same thing (as the original poster described) happen to me
a number of years ago.The Reno NV FAA office later gave me the impression
that it is not possible to surrender a US SEL? If this is indeed possible,
how does one go about it? -And if not, does anyone have experience/advice on
how much it requires to add a glider rating to the SEL?

Thanks,
Lars Peder
DG-600 "EE", Denmark

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"Mike the Strike" wrote in message
ps.com...
You have two choices - surrender your existing US SEL certificate or
add a glider rating to it. It's pointless to try to get an exception,
which could take years and probably wouldn't succeed.

Only you can decide which is the most attractive alternative - pay the
money or shred your old certificate.

Mike

Thank you for this information.-I'll start planning my next business trip,
which just happens to take me near to the Minden area ;-)

Happy soaring,
Lars Peder



"gen" wrote in message
ups.com...
Lars,

Surrendering US ASEL is possible per 61.27.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...1.1.18&idno=14

Once you surrender it, you no longer have a US pilot certificate, so
61.75(b)(3) will not apply. Your application to convert a foreign
glider license will go through. Multiple FAA officers at San Jose FSDO
told me so.

The cost to add a glider rating to ASEL varies much depending on which
club you choose. Apparently, the club I used to belong is on the high
end. Some people say it's less than $500 in Reno/Truckee area.

Hope this helps.

-Gen

Lars Peder Hansen wrote:
Hello,

I had exactly the same thing (as the original poster described) happen
to me
a number of years ago.The Reno NV FAA office later gave me the
impression
that it is not possible to surrender a US SEL? If this is indeed
possible,
how does one go about it? -And if not, does anyone have
experience/advice on
how much it requires to add a glider rating to the SEL?

Thanks,
Lars Peder
DG-600 "EE", Denmark

Replace numbers with "post1.tele.dk" to reply by email



"Mike the Strike" wrote in message
ps.com...
You have two choices - surrender your existing US SEL certificate or
add a glider rating to it. It's pointless to try to get an exception,
which could take years and probably wouldn't succeed.

Only you can decide which is the most attractive alternative - pay the
money or shred your old certificate.

Mike

If your coming to Minden, it shouldn't really be called a business trip (g).
Be sure to stop by and say Hi. (hangar D-14)

bumper

"Lars Peder Hansen" wrote in message
. ..
Thank you for this information.-I'll start planning my next business trip,
which just happens to take me near to the Minden area ;-)

Happy soaring,
Lars Peder



"gen" wrote in message
ups.com...
Lars,

Surrendering US ASEL is possible per 61.27.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...1.1.18&idno=14

Once you surrender it, you no longer have a US pilot certificate, so
61.75(b)(3) will not apply. Your application to convert a foreign
glider license will go through. Multiple FAA officers at San Jose FSDO
told me so.

The cost to add a glider rating to ASEL varies much depending on which
club you choose. Apparently, the club I used to belong is on the high
end. Some people say it's less than $500 in Reno/Truckee area.

Hope this helps.

-Gen

Lars Peder Hansen wrote:
Hello,

I had exactly the same thing (as the original poster described) happen
to me
a number of years ago.The Reno NV FAA office later gave me the
impression
that it is not possible to surrender a US SEL? If this is indeed
possible,
how does one go about it? -And if not, does anyone have
experience/advice on
how much it requires to add a glider rating to the SEL?

Thanks,
Lars Peder
DG-600 "EE", Denmark

Replace numbers with "post1.tele.dk" to reply by email



"Mike the Strike" wrote in message
ps.com...
You have two choices - surrender your existing US SEL certificate or
add a glider rating to it. It's pointless to try to get an
exception,
which could take years and probably wouldn't succeed.

Only you can decide which is the most attractive alternative - pay
the
money or shred your old certificate.

Mike