Eclipse 500 delivering

"Bill Denton" wrote in message et...
: "Backlog" generally refers to an inability to deliver orders at the promised
: time.
:
: If someone ordered an airplane from Eclipse and were told it would be
: delivered in January 2009 it would not be consider "backlogged" today...
:
:

\
On time delivery - delivering the product at agreed to time
Backlog - orders on the books not yet delivered

Dave Stadt wrote:

Eclipse is no threat to Cessna and Eclipse I am sure wishes it had the
backlog Cessna does. When it comes to business jets Cessna is so far ahead
it isn't even a race.

They're a huge threat to Beech though. Not surprising they sold Beech
right before this. When you're trying to sell a Baron at about the same
price as an Eclipse times are tough.

-Robert

("Viperdoc" wrote)
Does anyone know what the actual "out the door" delivered price was?

I was wondering whether Eclipse actually met their target price, or if
not, how much over did they go?


IIRC, for orders placed in early 1998, the special "limited offer -
introductory price" was $750,000. Then I remember the price going to
$850,000, then up to $950,000, etc.

(Anyone have the pricing history for the Eclipse?)

I'm not sure how they handled the Williams exit issues, G1000 upgrade,
weight increase and other "improvements" vs. old booking targets with
deposits?

http://www.gizmag.com/go/5332/
Fun Fun Fun site. click on left side photo links

They're saying $1.3M today, with $1M for the early bookings.

I'm also curious what the "OTD" cost was - because I thought the Eclipse was
to be sold (loaded) without many options. Now I'm seeing all sorts of
....extras... available, for an additional $$$.

I've heard 'line jumpers' are buying spots for $1.5M.

Hmm?
Order 4 Jets ..........(1998) $800K /each
Sell 3 Spots ...........(2007) $1.5M /each

Pay taxes ..............with sale of #1
Pay off #4 ..............with sale of #2
Buy fuel ..................with sale of #3


Montblack :-)
Yes, yes, I know the deposit money (x3 Eclipse Jets) could have been
earning ...blah, blah, blah

They require a contract and a cash deposit to get a
production number. Many speculators buy early and hope to
sell their slot at a profit. Some buyers may have a change
of heart, buy another airplane and drop out. Their slot
will be sold by the company at current prices.


"Neil Gould" wrote in message
et...
| Recently, Bill Denton posted:
|
| "Backlog" is really not the correct term for the Eclipse
situation.
|
| A more accurate description is "orders booked".
|
| Neither the customers nor Eclipse expected that everyone
would be
| able to get their airplane the day after FAA
certification was
| completed.
|
| Customers were given something like an "anticipated
delivery date"
| that, in some cases, was probably several years in the
future.
|
| Perhaps you can explain the difference between this and a
backlog of
| orders? Are you suggesting that the orders weren't
actually placed, and
| that the reported figures represent mere inquiries into
the delivery date?
| I don't see why any company would keep a count of such
inquiries, much
| less report them as orders.
|
| Neil
|
|
|

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 07:09:37 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


How much backlog does Cessna have for it's Citation line?

Last I heard they're quoting delivery sometime in 2010 for Mustsang
orders placed today.