Plastic Pilot Certificates Mandatory in 2009

Get one now, just report your current certificate missing...

Nah. I'll just go for my commercial rating.

Actually I started that, stopped when the arrow I was using developed a
problem with the prop governer (it is the shortest flight in my logbook)
and I got sidetracked onto other things. Maybe I'll go back and finish
it up.

Jose
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:30:14 -0800, Grumman-581 wrote
(in article ):

According to today's AvWeb's article for today, it seems that our old
paper licenses are going to no longer be valid in a couple of years...
Just as well -- they sucked for scraping frost off the inside of a
windshield anyway...

Eh, the CFI certificate is good for only two years anyway, so pretty much all
the active CFIs have plastic certificates anyway. And I had to replace the
pilot certificate when I got my pocket picked in the Philippines.

If I had had a certificate signed by Orville, I would have lost it within a
year or two anyway. I move around too much and keep adding ratings. Jeppesen
had a certificate signed by Orville, but he must have been one of the last.

C J Campbell wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:30:14 -0800, Grumman-581 wrote
(in article ):

According to today's AvWeb's article for today, it seems that our old
paper licenses are going to no longer be valid in a couple of years...
Just as well -- they sucked for scraping frost off the inside of a
windshield anyway...

Eh, the CFI certificate is good for only two years anyway, so pretty much all
the active CFIs have plastic certificates anyway. And I had to replace the
pilot certificate when I got my pocket picked in the Philippines.

When you renew your CFI certificate if you don't already have a new
pilot's certificate one is automatically sent. The new certificates
don't include SSN so it wouldn't make much sense to send a new CFI
ticket with a new number but still says "valid only with pilot
certificate XXX-XX-XXX"

-Robert

I just received my plastic certificate in today's mail. I passed my
PP-ASEL checkride on Nov 5, so this is the first certificate for me.
Opening the envelope to find it brought a huge smile to my face.

Have they been issuing the plastic certificates for long? I was
expecting paper, until I saw the AVWeb article yesterday. The letter
that came with my certificate said the FAA had been issuing paper
certificates since 1926,

It's got a magnetic strip on the back...I wonder what's encoded
there...

Gary

Gary wrote:
It's got a magnetic strip on the back...I wonder what's encoded
there...

At a guess, the certificate number and your name. If it's encoded in a
standard format, there is room for at least (basically) 40 numbers-only
characters and 79 numbers-or-letters characters. If it's a "narrow"
stripe - about 5/16" or 8 mm wide - that's all it's got. If it's a
"wide" stripe - about 1/2" or 13 mm wide - there is an additional track
of 107 numbers-only characters. Reference
http://www.repairfaq.org/filipg/LINK/F_Phrack_Mag.html .

A few years back, I got a card reader and hooked it up to my PC and
looked at was on my cards. Credit cards follow a fairly standard format
but other cards vary. I had a driver's license with a mag stripe and it
had the driver's license number in the numbers-only field and my name in
the numbers-or-letters field. If I remember right, there was also some
kind of location in the numbers-or-letters field - not my complete
address but a zip code or county abbreviation, something like that.

One problem with trying to read the data on your own cards is that if
you don't own the hardware yourself or you don't know how to hook it up,
you have to really, really trust whoever owns the hardware or is helping
you hook it up.

Matt Roberds

wrote:
Gary wrote:
It's got a magnetic strip on the back...I wonder what's encoded
there...

At a guess, the certificate number and your name. If it's encoded in a
standard format, there is room for at least (basically) 40 numbers-only
characters and 79 numbers-or-letters characters. If it's a "narrow"
stripe - about 5/16" or 8 mm wide - that's all it's got. If it's a
"wide" stripe - about 1/2" or 13 mm wide - there is an additional track
of 107 numbers-only characters. Reference
http://www.repairfaq.org/filipg/LINK/F_Phrack_Mag.html .


It's the narrow, 8 mm strip.

I wonder who's going to be scanning the card, and why?

wrote:
Gary wrote:
It's got a magnetic strip on the back...I wonder what's encoded
there...

At a guess, the certificate number and your name. If it's encoded in a
standard format, there is room for at least (basically) 40 numbers-only
characters and 79 numbers-or-letters characters. If it's a "narrow"
stripe - about 5/16" or 8 mm wide - that's all it's got. If it's a
"wide" stripe - about 1/2" or 13 mm wide - there is an additional track
of 107 numbers-only characters. Reference
http://www.repairfaq.org/filipg/LINK/F_Phrack_Mag.html .


It's the narrow, 8 mm strip.

I wonder who's going to be scanning the card, and why?

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
news
According to today's AvWeb's article for today, it seems that our old
paper licenses are going to no longer be valid in a couple of years...
Just as well -- they sucked for scraping frost off the inside of a
windshield anyway...

Does anyone have information on the process to get one?

Danny Deger

In article ,
"Danny Deger" wrote:

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
news
According to today's AvWeb's article for today, it seems that our old
paper licenses are going to no longer be valid in a couple of years...
Just as well -- they sucked for scraping frost off the inside of a
windshield anyway...

Does anyone have information on the process to get one?

Danny Deger

You can do it online

http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...on/certificate
_replacement/

"Danny Deger" wrote in
:


"Grumman-581" wrote in message
news
According to today's AvWeb's article for today, it seems that our old
paper licenses are going to no longer be valid in a couple of years...
Just as well -- they sucked for scraping frost off the inside of a
windshield anyway...

Does anyone have information on the process to get one?

Danny Deger




Go to http://www.faa.gov and then select "Licenses & Certificates". You
will find complete directions to do this either by mail, or if you
register, online. If you have a paper certificate which uses your SSN as
your certificate number it is FREE to request a new certificate with an
assigned certirficate number unrelated to your SSN. Otherwise, it will
cost you $2.

The issue date will be changed to the date they process your replacement
certificate.

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Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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