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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

No they are probably in a better position to know what the company needs
donee company's insurance will cover and make the risk/reward decision.

The cost of insurance is directly related to the risk associated with
the activity.

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No they are probably in a better position to know what the company needs
donee company's insurance will cover and make the risk/reward decision.

The cost of insurance is directly related to the risk associated with
the activity.

Maybe in simulation. Certainly not IRL.

Peter

"Tony" wrote:

If you're a fairly experienced pilot -- say 300 plus hours -- what is
your usage profile like?


~120 hrs/yr

80% IFR cross country for business, personal travel and Angel Flight.

10% training & practice.

10% goofing around.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Tony" wrote in message
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I expect glider pilots will have a different take -- as best I can
tell, that tribe makes no excuses, they fly for the sole pleasure of
flying.

That is exactly right. As transportation, a glider is just slightly more
practical than a hot air balloon.

I come from the glider world, but now mostly fly airplanes...just for the
sole pleasure of flying. Expense wise, taking a rental airplane on a long
x-country is a non-starter, so most of my x-country time consists of breakfast
runs.

Vaughn

On 1/26/2007 6:25:37 PM, "Dan Luke" wrote:

~120 hrs/yr

80% IFR cross country for business, personal travel and Angel Flight.

10% training & practice.

10% goofing around.

And how many NASA forms? I have two in about 1,100 hours.

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Peter

Tony wrote:
If you're a fairly experienced pilot -- say 300 plus hours -- what is
your usage profile like?

About 5% are "overhead" (post maintenance test flights, currency, BFR)
About 10% are charity (Young Eagles and other donated flights)
About 85% are cross country family trips

We do use the plane much like many others would use a family car or a
motor home. It allows for trips and activities that would not otherwise
be possible due to driving time, or commercial aviation shortcomings (no
commercial service to destination/lack of seats on short notice/high
cost for 4-6 seats/flight times/etc).

We can pack much more into a weekend, such as being in town for a
commitment like one of my kids' baseball or soccer games AND visit the
grandparents in Phoenix (P19) or hit the ski slopes in Mammoth or Big
Bear.

With the traffic problems in Southern California, the time benefit of
flying can be pretty substantial. A friend from work drove up to Big
Bear to spend New Years with us (we'd flown up before Christmas). We
both went home on January 1st. It took us 30 minutes to fly home (58nm
L35 to L18). It took him 4 hours to drive back with all of the holiday
traffic. Even without traffic it takes over 2 hours to drive the 110sm
by road.

Steve

PS -- Just recently learned that www.bigbearairporthouse.com (I have no
affiliation with them) has a picture from their web cam at the bottom of
their page which shows our Lance parked in the snow behind their
property back in December. I can just imagine the call from my boss "If
your home sick, how come I see your plane on the web cam at Big Bear?!" :-)

Peter Dohm writes:

Maybe in simulation. Certainly not IRL.

It certainly worked that way when I worked in the insurance industry,
in real life.

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"Tony" wrote in message
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A long time ago (about 1980?) someone told me a special rating was
needed to fly over the outback, that my USA Private SEL Instruments
wasn't good enough. Did he have it backwards? It sounds like the rating
needed for flying in uncontrolled airspace there is easier to get than
one that might be used for controlled.

Tony, no special rating is required to fly in the outback, although
certainly there are some special procedures to follow like mandatory ELB
requirements in designated remote areas. The outside controlled airspace
license is basically identical to the normal PPL with the exception that you
are not tested on controlled airspace procedures and thus you do not have
the priviledge of entering them. A key part of the training and testing is
obviously the ability to know where these areas are. Crossing into
controlled airspace is an automatic failure on the test. If you have a need
to use controlled airspace you can simply do this training seperately , get
tested on it and have your PPL endorsed.
I have not flown into the real Aussie outback myself but I plan to in the
next couple of years. Probably the best way to do this is on organised
tours. There is at least one outfit here where you can tag along in your
own plane with a group of very experienced outback pilots , with
accomodation, meals tours etc organised. They typically last 10 to 12 days
with 3 to 4 hours of flying each day. I have read some great trip reports
from these tours.

terry

"d&tm" wrote

I have not flown into the real Aussie outback myself but I plan to in the
next couple of years. Probably the best way to do this is on organised
tours. There is at least one outfit here where you can tag along in your
own plane with a group of very experienced outback pilots , with
accomodation, meals tours etc organised. They typically last 10 to 12
days
with 3 to 4 hours of flying each day. I have read some great trip reports
from these tours.

As I recall, one of our own flying couples (don't remember who, now) went on
one of those things. They loved it, I remember.

The problem is, that soon thereafter, some new regulations were put into
place, that would make such an outing nearly impossible.

Something like needing to stay a certain amount of time before using the
privilege of transferred certificate? Someone will jump in with the
details. I don't remember enough to search on it.
--
Jim in NC

I expect glider pilots will have a different take -- as best I can
tell, that tribe makes no excuses, they fly for the sole pleasure of
flying.


Sail planes are like sail boats..
they are there for the enjoyment..
and the challenge..

It's just you and "mother nature"

BT