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Graham wrote:
Wasn't the Hellcat known as the Martlet or some such when used by the poms? I think the FAA (Fleet Air Arm of the RN) called them that. It was originally intended to be called the "Gannet", but reverted to the name Hellcat before the first ones were delivered. "Martlet" was the name given to earlier versions of the Wildcat, although the FM-2 was known as the "Wildcat VI" in FAA service. As for FAA Hellcats in the ETO, those markings are accurate. They depict an aircraft from 800 NAS, flying from HMS Emperor (ex-USS Pybus CVE-34). Emperor operated Hellcats as fighter cover during Operation TUNGSTEN, an attack on the German battleship /Tirpitz/ on 2 April 1944. One Hellcat was severely damaged and ditched. Emperor provided aircraft for the anti-submarine screen during the D-Day landings, again with Hellcats as fighter cover. -- Enzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. |
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 2:37:42 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in message ): A Hellcat with DDay invasion stripes? What Hellcats were flying in the ETO? Not the ETO but close: a couple of USN escort carriers with Hellcats supported the landings in southern France in August 1944 (Operation Dragoon). The attached picture shows one of these vessels, the USS Tulagi, on its way to the Riviera beaches. -- |
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It is a legit and fascinating scheme. I actually have a decal sheet of it,
making this part of my long term "build list." Brian |
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:11:59 +0000, Enzo Matrix wrote
(in message ): As for FAA Hellcats in the ETO, those markings are accurate. They depict an Here are some striped Martlets/Wildcats but I have no further information about the picture. -- |
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ng.com... Oh yes, that definitely qualifies. brian Thanks Brian, he is currently working on a U-boat which I think should look rather good. -- Andrew "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." (Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.) |
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"Mike Henley" wrote in message
... Tell your brother, "Well Done!" Thanks Mike. I will pass the message on. -- Andrew "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." (Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.) |
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Netko wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 2:37:42 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote (in message ): A Hellcat with DDay invasion stripes? What Hellcats were flying in the ETO? Not the ETO but close: a couple of USN escort carriers with Hellcats supported the landings in southern France in August 1944 (Operation Dragoon). The attached picture shows one of these vessels, the USS Tulagi, on its way to the Riviera beaches. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am guessing that they would have been used for close air support - air to ground? The fast movers (Mustangs, Lightnings, T-Birds, Spits) would have been up at altitude to kill any bombers or fighters? And thanks for the pictures .. I thought the F4F was out of the fight by 1944. Cheers, Dave |
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![]() "CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message . .. I am guessing that they would have been used for close air support - air to ground? The fast movers (Mustangs, Lightnings, T-Birds, Spits) would have been up at altitude to kill any bombers or fighters? And thanks for the pictures .. I thought the F4F was out of the fight by 1944. The Wildcat soldiered on right to the end, mostly FM-1s and FM-2s built by Eastern so Grumman could concentrate on Hellcats. The Wildcats were used mainly in the Atlantic on Jeep carriers for convoy escort / antisubmarine duty, since you didn't need a Hellcat to deal with a Kondor... In the Pacific, FMs were used behind the lines, where you might run into at worst a bomber or recon plane, or the occasional sub. Again, allowing Corsairs and Hellcats to stay at the front. -- --Llarry Amrose In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is. -- Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut |
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![]() "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message ... A Hellcat with DDay invasion stripes? What Hellcats were flying in the ETO? FAA and USN Hellcats supported the invasion of southern France in August 1944. |
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![]() "Graham" wrote in message ... Wasn't the Hellcat known as the Martlet or some such when used by the poms? I think the FAA (Fleet Air Arm of the RN) called them that. Dunno if the RAF operated them. As this pic is of a model in British markings, should we not refer to it as a Martlett then? The Grumman Wildcat was known as the Martlet in FAA service. The British originally named their Hellcats "Gannet", until deciding separate names for American aircraft was not worth the bother. |
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