Canals in Missouri?

"Blueskies" wrote in message
t...

You 'were diverted' around an MOA? Don't you mean you decided to fly
around it.
There is no requirement to stay out of MOAs...


There is if you're IFR.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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True enough. However, approach strongly "suggested" a course of 360
to avoid the MOA, because it was "hot".


Choosing to follow a suggestion is not being diverted.



I heard him working several F-16s out of Springfield, IL, as well as a
couple of unidentified other fighters (F-15s?). They had the airspace to
50,000 feet, so I wasn't gonna fly over it!


Did you consider going under it?

MOAs don't go above 18,000 feet, although they often have a similarly shaped
ATCAA overlying them.

On Mar 16, 9:12 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

Can any pilots from the Show-Me State shed any light on this?

Thanks!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Kennett is one of my regular fuel stops. I had always assumed the
canals had something to do with irrigation. Lots of cotton grown
there. Rice a little farther south.
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of Flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

Jay? IFR? .............................oxymoron


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Blueskies" wrote in message
t...

You 'were diverted' around an MOA? Don't you mean you decided to fly
around it.
There is no requirement to stay out of MOAs...


There is if you're IFR.

If I'm getting flight following... and the ATC controller recommends a
divert around a HOT MOA.. and I refuse...
I can expect his next transmission to be, "Roger, radar service terminated,
squawk 1200, good day and good luck."

BT

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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On our flight from Memphis, TN to Iowa City, IA, today, we were
diverted around the Lindbergh MOA.


Congratulations! When did you add the instrument rating?

karl gruber wrote:
Jay? IFR? .............................oxymoron

Awh, come one... There's a couple of roads in Missouri...

"BT" wrote in message
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If I'm getting flight following... and the ATC controller recommends a
divert around a HOT MOA.. and I refuse...
I can expect his next transmission to be, "Roger, radar service
terminated, squawk 1200, good day and good luck."


Why do you expect that?

On our flight from Memphis, TN to Iowa City, IA, today, we were
diverted around the Lindbergh MOA.

Congratulations! When did you add the instrument rating?

While it's true that the controller "suggested" a heading of 360 to
stay clear of the Lindbergh MOA(s), I believe any good airman would
follow that suggestion.

There was a VFR Navajo in the MOA (on a photo mission of some sort)
that the controller was working the fighters around/above, and you
could tell that it was quite a PIA for all concerned. If my
diversion helped keep our boys (and me) safer, it was worth every pint
of (stupidly expensive) avgas.

I've flown close to F-15s when they were in the pattern to land, and
it was as if I was standing absolutely stock-still. I can't imagine
what flying near them during mock combat in an MOA would be like.
(Actually, it would be cool to see, but...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Kennett is one of my regular fuel stops. I had always assumed the
canals had something to do with irrigation. Lots of cotton grown
there. Rice a little farther south.

Biggest danged drainage system I've seen. They make the locks in
Sault.Ste Marie look like drainage ditches.

When the canal you're looking at stretches from horizon to horizon in
an absolutely straight line -- and you're at 7500 feet -- you know
someone has spent some tax dollars.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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While it's true that the controller "suggested" a heading of 360 to
stay clear of the Lindbergh MOA(s), I believe any good airman would
follow that suggestion.


I choose to avoid MOAs as well, but choosing to follow an ATC suggestion is
not being diverted by ATC.