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On 19 Apr 2007 09:22:44 -0700, Greg Esres
wrote: Don Tuite wrote: brushed-aluminum pushbuttojn on left horn of yoke? Yes extra knob on turn-and-sllip? Hmmm, I don't think so. There is such a knob on the yoke itself that is aileron trim. I don't think the system uses the panel turn & slip; it has its own internal equivalent of a turn coordinator, according to the documentation I've seen. OK My recollections are nearly 40 years old. Don |
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On Apr 18, 8:27 pm, Greg Esres wrote:
the pump handle position didn't matter. (I always unconsciously pulled it back to the top stop whenever I used it however.) That's how I read the POH. However, the flaps seem to creep up sometimes. I never saw anything labeled "Positive Control" on the bird I flew. I thought they all had this? Probably no label....built-in wing leveler. Thanks I'd instruction in a lot of Mooneys but I've not seen any that didn't have at least the vac wing leveler autopilot. All the way back in the early days of the C they had the wing leveler, and later offered an upgrade to the electric Pathfinder system. The PC system had a check valve as I recall to prevent leaks in the PC system (which most planes have) from causing vac failures. Up until 1977 Mooneys were certified with full-time autopilots (maybe the only plane so certified). The autopilot was designed to be on all the time unless the pilot actively held down a button to disable it. Turns are made by selecting left/ right on the controller. However, the A/P is easily over powered. -Robert, CFII |
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![]() " have) from causing vac failures. Up until 1977 Mooneys were certified with full-time autopilots (maybe the only plane so certified). And they need one. The Mooney has to be the most unresponsive airplane made. It flys like a truck! Karl Bought new 201 in 1977 |
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Gosh Karl - I thought the M20 flew pretty nicely when you release the wing leveler. Nothing like a C182 or C206 - hell during the preflight I think we are supposed to check the delivery chute on the tail to make sure it hasn't clogged from the last load of concrete it hauled.
-- Jim Carter Rogers, Arkansas "karl gruber" wrote in message ... " have) from causing vac failures. Up until 1977 Mooneys were certified with full-time autopilots (maybe the only plane so certified). And they need one. The Mooney has to be the most unresponsive airplane made. It flys like a truck! Karl Bought new 201 in 1977 |
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karl gruber wrote:
" have) from causing vac failures. Up until 1977 Mooneys were certified with full-time autopilots (maybe the only plane so certified). And they need one. The Mooney has to be the most unresponsive airplane made. It flys like a truck! We like to say they are "stable". ![]() Dave |
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Ok - I'll accept the wing leveler (which you overrode with a button on the yoke if you didn't want to fly a Mack Truck). However I've never seen it called Positive Control before - might be a different year model.
-- Jim Carter Rogers, Arkansas "Greg Esres" wrote in message oups.com... the pump handle position didn't matter. (I always unconsciously pulled it back to the top stop whenever I used it however.) That's how I read the POH. However, the flaps seem to creep up sometimes. I never saw anything labeled "Positive Control" on the bird I flew. I thought they all had this? Probably no label....built-in wing leveler. Thanks |
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On Apr 19, 7:28 pm, "Jim Carter" wrote:
Ok - I'll accept the wing leveler (which you overrode with a button on the yoke if you didn't want to fly a Mack Truck). However I've never seen it called Positive Control before - might be a different year model. I think its always called "The PC system" in every Mooney I've instructed in that had just the wing leveler. I think it even has a (TM) next to it. -Robert |
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